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[aprs-fl] Dunedin and Palm Harbor fill digipeaters

Tom Dye tomdye at gulfatl.com
Sat Nov 6 15:13:21 UTC 2010


Yeah.  Poor antenna placement, or it came down in the wind.  I'll check when I get home.

Thanks ans 73
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Paul Toth-NB9X" <ptoth1 at tampabay.rr.com>
Sender: aprs-fl-bounces at tapr.org
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 11:10:59 
To: TAPR APRS Florida Regional Mailing List<aprs-fl at tapr.org>
Reply-To: Paul Toth-NB9X <ptoth1 at tampabay.rr.com>,
	TAPR APRS Florida Regional Mailing List <aprs-fl at tapr.org>
Subject: Re: [aprs-fl] Dunedin and Palm Harbor fill digipeaters

Tom....

FYI...I am having no problem seeing your stations (mobile and base) via
KG4YZY-10 and W4ACS-11 on the first hop an without an assist from another
station.  I am also seeing several other APRS stations in your area, one
hop, through the same digis.

73 de Paul-NB9X
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Schaefer, NY4I" <ny4i at arrl.net>
To: "TAPR APRS Florida Regional Mailing List" <aprs-fl at tapr.org>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:48 PM
Subject: [aprs-fl] Dunedin and Palm Harbor fill digipeaters


Thanks…

We do have a new fill digipeater under the call using KJ4FEC-13 (
http://aprs.fi/info/KJ4FEC-13 ) next to Palm Harbor MIddle School. It is
only responding to WIDE1-1. This alone has helped in that I can now have my
D7A digipeated from my home (message traffic mostly). I am also gathering a
mast and tuning a j-pole for NY4I-10 ( http://aprs.fi/?call=a%2FNY4I-10 ) to
be placed very near Curlew and Alternate 19. I could see Mease manor as a
great fill sitter (if not a full fledged WIDEN). Ever since KB4BOS left us,
I do not know who managed that sight anymore. I know it used to be the
145.21 repeater, but I think it is a CARS site now.

Please do let me know if you seem to be digipeated better nowadays with the
KJ4FEC site up and running.

Thanks,

Tom NY4I
On Nov 5, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Thomas A. Dye III, CCP wrote:

> Tom and Paul,
>
> I have been saying for years that there are APRS coverage holes in the
areas
> of Dunedin and South West Palm Harbor, even for high powered mobile
> stations.  Improving the network to allow coverage for 5w trackers would
be
> a very good idea.  This is a worthwhile discussion and I'm glad this list
> has been revived.
>
> 73
>
> Tom
> AB4EZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprs-fl-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:aprs-fl-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf
> Of Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:14 PM
> To: TAPR APRS Florida Regional Mailing List; Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
> Subject: Re: [aprs-fl] Fill digipeaters in the area
>
> I am interested in the 5 watt HT coverage for Pinellas county. It appears
> you are using actual data versus path projections based on propagation
> density. To reflect what a tracker was experiencing, you would have to
have
> a fully covered network and report the dbm of each received packet for
> analysis. That would also assume we had a 5watt HT trying to get in that
> actually did get digipeated.
>
> Note, I think this is a fine network here and I am not denigrating it at
> all.. I saw the same thing when I lived in Alexandria, VA - relatively
close
> to the birth place of APRS. It is just hard to get every nook and cranny
> covered in packet systems with low height digipeaters (1000 feet and
below).
> I was just trying to ensure as close to full coverage for minimal power
> trackers. I figure it will even help the area where my D710 running
50watts
> does not get digipeated either (like the southern Pinellas beaches).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom NY4I
> On Nov 5, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
>
>> Tom Schaefer, NY4I wrote:
>>> into APRS in the last 12 months. I noticed an absence of fill
digipeaters
> in the area evidenced by the holes in the mobile coverage in the area. I
> wonder if this is a
>>
>> I'm not sure how you have detected the "holes in the mobile coverage",
but
> I have been generating APRS utilization graphs for quite some time now,
> including state-wide Florida.  Look for *FLORIDA* and *PALMBAY* files at:
>>
>> http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/Act24/* (trailing *
> required)
>>
>> http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/Act00/* (ditto)
>>
>> Depending on your browser, you may have to zoom in to see the detail in
> the images.
>>
>> If desired, I can add close-ups of any rectangular area in Florida if you
> give me the coordinates and a suitable name for the described area.  I
> buffer a rolling 10 day set of data for North America for these graphs
which
> is composited into the Act00 vs the Act24 plots.
>>
>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Palm Bay IGate operator & APRS Infrastructure
> Visualization
>>
>> PS.  Filename Key:
>>
>> (0) = All traffic with lines
>> (1) = Direct IGate traffic only
>> (2) = Digi/Igate traffic only
>> (3) = Blocks (movers) and dots (digi/IGate) w/o labels
>>
>>
>>
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