[aprssig] The path subject again
CHRISTENSENE at MAIL.ECU.EDU
Thu Dec 2 12:09:51 CST 2004
ALOHA circles for stations in Eastern North Carolina is running between
2 and 3 hops. So 3 hops in our area is really TOO much to use.
kf4otn at amsat.org
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[mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Hudson
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:46
To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group
Subject: [aprssig] The path subject again
What makes Mass/RI/CT/ME different from the rest of the heavily
populated areas in the country? Other Metro areas in Texas, California,
Florida recommend SINGLE WIDEs as a path. RELAY,WIDE3-3 appears to be a
growing epidemic on the Eastern Seaboard, 4 Hops in all directions?
That's 36 potential packets, 30 seconds of airtime per transmit cycle.
Why does anyone is Western NY, VT, Quebec, NYC,NJ care about a station
in Maine or Boston? How can this be good for the network?
We have worked very hard to get home stations to run "DIRECTED",WIDE or
RELAY,WIDE for mobiles in upstate NY, only to have stations 150+ miles
away flood our local network? Trips to mountains to adjust digipeaters
so they are only IDing direct, constant user education, emails,
letters, training sessions, no it's not easy.
It appears to be a simple game of, "if the guy next to me is running
RELAY,WIDE3-3, why can't I?" It seems every month we rehash this and
everyone appears to be in agreement. I write emails to individuals and
they reply positively but never make changes to their station. If a
group suggests shorter paths and starts using it, maybe others will
follow? Does this apply to you? Bob B has suggested ways of computing
your aloha circle, Findu is a start, APRS DOS now gives that circle on
If everybody would knock it down to DIRECTED,WIDE or WIDE2-2 we would
have room for more traffic and things will work much better for us on
our local network. 8 of our top 10 users are not locals, and are far
outside our aloha circle.
I'm sorry if this is offensive to anyone and it's a shame we have to
keep bringing it up, but if we don't fix it now it will just get worse.
It's an unfair distribution of the network, and is preventing us from
using our own resources. Please, take it down a notch (or 2 or 3).
Dennis Hudson, N2LBT
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