[aprssig] BIG-TALL digis that hear FAR too MUCH!
Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.eduTue Dec 14 17:02:48 UTC 2004
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Steve is exactly correct about the wide variability of that ALOHA range of "60". It is not at all a magic number. But that is also why we have asked ALL authors to put the ALOHA calculator in their code so that their programs compute the number LIVE more precisely based on actually what they hear. We typically have 20 mobiles in my area and my ALOHA number drops to about 40 during comute times. APRSdos and now UIview (with addon) compute and always display the local ALOHA range on all maps. See the algorithm on: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs/ALOHAcir.txt Thanks Bob >>> k4hg at tapr.org 12/14/04 10:20:01 AM >>> On 12/14/04 at 10:06 AM Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> sent: >Any digi that can hear more than 60 or so >other stations is going to have more than >a 100% saturated channel and cannot possibly >serve locals reliably,... > There cannot be a simple line drawn where 59 is good and 61 is bad. Even after eliminating non-VHF LAN stations, you must take into account packet rates of those stations and the configuration of the local network...if one has 20 mobiles sending a NMEA packet every minute with WIDE7-7, and 10 WIDEn-n digis in range, the channel will be massively overloaded with only 30 stations in range. At the other extreme, say there is a digi in a place like Key West (therefore other activity in only one direction), with only 1 other digi in that direction, a local network could easily support 200 home stations sending a posit every 30 minutes...the channel is not overloaded despite a 201 station count. Obviously these are extremes, and in many cases the average number of 60 is probably as good as any, but the point is that each individual case MUST be looked at with a human brain, you cannot rely on findU or any other computer to answer this question in all cases... Steve K4HG _______________________________________________ aprssig mailing list aprssig at lists.tapr.org https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
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