[aprssig] bad PHG, or lots of big towers?
Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.eduTue Dec 14 18:34:03 UTC 2004
- Previous message: [aprssig] Another advantage of SSn-N replacement for WIDEn-N
- Next message: [aprssig] Re: Calculating HAAT(was lots of big towers?etc)
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
>>> daron at wilson.org 12/14/04 1:11:17 PM >>> >We have several mountain top digis, that... hear [too much] >...having one on a high mountaintop does not (by default) >make it the best choice. Since this is HAM radio the fun part is designing systems. One suggestion that might work is to put the really high ones with a UHF output pointed back to an IGate. This really high one hears all surrounding digis for 200 miles and puts all that traffic down on a nearly 100% busy UHF link to the IGate. Thus users everywhere are only 2 hops from the IGate. But the BIG cross band digi does not QRM any of the other ones. for a drastic improvement. If the BIG digi still hears too many collisions from all the surrounding digis, then the next step is to put up four beams each with their own receive TNCs lower on the tower so that each TNC (even though they are all listening on 144.39 to the other digis) hears its preferreed direction at least 10 dB better than any other direction. This way all 4 surrounding digis can all TX at the same time and yet the multiple TNC's and beams at the central BIG digi will hear them all without collisoin and can combine them into the single UHF downlink to the IGate. Lots of fun RF stuff to play with up there in the cold and ice! But it would allow a 4 fold improvement in reliability for the IGate to capture those 2 hop packets from the entire state... ALSO, remember with the status quo, a station trying to get a packet from area A to area C through the big digi B which can hear A, C, D, E and F digis also will have a FAR worse chance of success getting throgh B on one hop then he would by using the digi path of A-C. This is because A,B,and C can all hear each other and so CSMA will work well. THus when the station trys to get into B direct, he is competing with all the traffic on A,C,D,and F for a quiet slot. But when he tries to get into his local digi A, he is only competing with B and C, not the others. And once he gets into A, then A only has to complete with B and C to finish the 2 hop path. In many cases, this might be more reliable... Thus, the loss of digipeating through B (if the UHF link is implemented) is no big loss to the RF users in the area... de WB4APR
- Previous message: [aprssig] Another advantage of SSn-N replacement for WIDEn-N
- Next message: [aprssig] Re: Calculating HAAT(was lots of big towers?etc)
- Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
More information about the aprssig mailing list
