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[aprssig] Re: More thoughts on Connected Packet - telpac_node

Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.edu
Wed Dec 29 15:19:40 UTC 2004

>>> aprs at kd4rdb.com 12/29/04 9:52:52 AM >>>
>tcp/ip is... really chatty on air.... but it's impossible (practically

>speaking) once you start having to route on air via net/rom.  
>Net/rom delivers EVERY packet.  So when the two mix...
>the plethora  of packets would cause the network to effectively 
>collapse on itself.   Lesson learned was to route TCP/IP the 
>whole way.

Or stop trying to  use an end-for-end multi-multi hop system 
built up of 1200 baud fragile links all over the countryside on
shared channels!

This new NETgate idea is only 2 hops anywhere on the planet
between any two hams anywhere.  
RF to the local NETgate (to the internet)
RF to the end user from his local NETgate.

And since the internet handles all of the global connectivity
it is trivial to the end user.  No need at all for all the overhead 
of on-air TCPIP.

>I'm actually looking forward to playing with winlink.  
>The only problem I have is that it may not run in linux...

WinLINK sounded great when I first heard about it,
but it is a message/email/file system only and is therefore
application specific.   Why limit ourselves?

I'm excited about going back to simple global AX.25 packet 
connectivity end-to-end  for ANY application... with RF
at the ends and the internet in the middle.


Quoting Bill Vodall <wa7nwp at jnos.org>:

> > > No reason they can't be -- specially if running Linux.  
telpac_node is
> > > trivial to install and run.  It's sitting ready in the background
> > > nobody
> > > knows it's there until it's needed.
> > >
> > > 

> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Bill, tell me about the Linux Telpac!  I have not heard a thing
about it.
> >
> > Jim
> Not much more to say beyond the notes on the blog.
> It's been mentioned a couple time on the wl2kemcomm list.  I
> the source, compiled it and installed on a couple systems.  Both
worked fine.
> (I won't mention the other system where I'm still fighting with the
> compile...)
> Bill
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