[aprssig] "Out-of-order" data on APRS-IS
VE7GDH ve7gdh at rac.caWed Aug 10 02:00:19 UTC 2005
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I've got my own "out-of-order" story. VE7CUU-14 came for a visit today. While viewing his track (UI-View32 / PMapServer 7 / UI-HeightTrack but that's irrelevant) I noticed that just before he got here, he jumped back to a previous position, and then on to what should have been the next position after the one that he "jumped back" from. I have seen this numerous times over in the Vancouver BC area, but this time, I was able to understand the evidence. Here are the last few position reports. 20050809171522,VE7CUU-14>TXUPQT,VE7SFU-10*,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7DID-1:`39k/164.520 SX 20050809171628,VE7CUU-14>TXTYVY,WIDE-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`38\o!gk/ 20050809171632,VE7CUU-14>TXUPQT,VE7IPB-10,VE7CX-10,WIDE2*,qAR,KD7NM:`39k/164.520 SX 20050809171723,VE7CUU-14>TXTYSU,RELAY,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`38Un!Qk/ 20050809171801,VE7CUU-14>TXTYQU,WIDE-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`38An5$k/164.520 SX 20050809172019,VE7CUU-14>TXTXXU,RELAY,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`37Hlp!k/ 20050809172125,VE7CUU-14>TXTYPW,WIDE-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`37]lq k/ 20050809172211,VE7CUU-14>TXTYPP,RELAY,WIDE2-2,qAo,VE7GDH:`37Fm+Tk/ It is in MIC-E format, but notice the first position shown `39k and gated by VE7DID-1. Then jump down two lines and you will see the same position again, but gated a full minute and 10 seconds later, but via a different path and gated by KD7NM down towards Seattle WA. Someone had suggested earlier that it could be a digi not running with the squelch wide open and with it hanging onto the packet until the squelch eventually closed. I suppose it could also be a case of the frequency being so busy that a particular digi was holding off until there was a moment of silence before digipeating the "held" packet. There is also a possibility of some kind of a delay being introduced by KD7NM but you would think that others would have noticed it before now. Just thought I would throw this out at the SIG. I will send a copy to the NWAPRS list shortly to let the "locals" mull it over. By the way, ignore the typo in the status text. It should of course be 146.520 SX. That will be re-programmed shortly, as well as getting rid of the RELAY in the path. Also I was just gating the beacons I heard. I don't digipeat anything via RELAY. 73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH -- "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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