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[aprssig] Bob, Address the WIDE7-6 Possibility

Eric Christensen kf4otn at earthlink.net
Tue Feb 22 05:29:07 UTC 2005


Well, unfortunately there are people out there that you just can't work with and ruin it for everyone else.

Case in point.  Monday evening a friend of mine was trying to help a ham out that was using a bad path (RELAY,WIDE,WIDE,WIDE).  As so many people up here say "education is the best way and will always work" he attempted to contact the station and ask him to use a better path and explain why it is a better path.  This conversation was not taken lightly and I actually have a copy of the conversation off of findU to prove how much of a LID this guy really is.

His reasons for not updating his path to something more appropriate???

1) He was taking advice from a No-Code Technician
2) He felt like if he ignored the No-Code long enough, then the no-code would go away.
3) He had possessed his Amateur Radio License longer than the no-code.
4) He had more history in APRS.

So much for education.  I'm really trying to be nice by not posting the conversation on the SIG because honestly I was a little taken back by this guy's reaction and attitude.  The "no-code" that I'm referring to is probably the nicest guy one would ever meet and certainly attempted to provide this guy with information, website, and suggestion.  He was never rude once.  Unbelievable.

73s,
Eric KF4OTN


> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
> [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of A.J. 
> Farmer (AJ3U)
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 15:56
> To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [aprssig] Bob, Address the WIDE7-6 Possibility
> 
> 
> >UNTIL I started to see people running W2-2,W2-2,W2-2.
> 
> That begs the question, is that path intentional or do they
> just not know any better?  Either they are totally confused 
> with the changes or they are trying to purposefully cause problems.
> 
> Either way, this seems like a case of some bad apples in the
> bunch and should not represent the majority of APRS users.  
> Have you made any contact with these people?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
> [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org]
> On Behalf Of Christensen, Eric
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:38 PM
> To: David Odom; TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [aprssig] Bob, Address the WIDE7-6 Possibility
> 
> Dave,
> If everyone out there was as curious and you and your son,
> then we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.  I 
> agree that RELAY,W2-2 is an excellent path for everywhere 
> (except maybe Los Angeles).  I would support digipeaters 
> utilizing a W2-2 in their UIDIGI to support one hop UNTIL I 
> started to see people running W2-2,W2-2,W2-2.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, what kind of tracker do you use?
> 
> 73s,
> Eric KF4OTN
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org 
> > [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of David Odom
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 15:30
> > To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [aprssig] Bob, Address the WIDE7-6 Possibility
> > 
> > 
> > Eric,
> > 
> > I follow the Sig but say very little.  I disagree with you on this 
> > thread and feel I should speak up for those of us who travel a lot.
> > I am not a 
> > trucker but my son, KG4RIP and I travel a lot using APRS to 
> keep our
> > families informed.  In the past 2 years I have been in 27
> > different states 
> > on two trips.  It makes no sense to us,  who cross a state in 
> > 2 hours, and 
> > maybe cross 3 or 4 in a day, to not provide a universal path 
> > for travelers. 
> > I used relay,w2-2 on my entire 27 state trip and was posted 
> > on FindU when in 
> > range of a digi.  There were some gaps for sure I10 in parts 
> > of Texas and 
> > I80 through Nebraska don't have much digi coverage but it 
> > enough to give my 
> > family a rough estimate where I am and that I am ok.
> > 
> > I believe we will lose a lot of the utility and interest in APRS if 
> > we abandon the ability of travelers to us a single universal
> > path.  Especially 
> > those of us who travel a lot without copilots to operate the radios.
> > 
> > Dave
> > W4VOR
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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