[aprssig] APRS IS weirdness
Steve Dimse steve at dimse.comSun Feb 27 21:02:05 UTC 2005
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OK, all you APRS Internet System detectives out there, here's something to track down... I just got a message from a user in Germany, who noted his call appears in the findU error page. He did a complete investigation of the problem himself (refreshing) and saw the problem is the alternate symbol set backslash was missing from between the lat and lon. Fair enough, but he is sending it correctly, and in fact when you look at him through the raw.cgi, packets appear both ways a second or two apart. When I looked at the error page to check this out myself http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/errors.cgi my first surprise was how full this page is, and with mostly French and German stations displaying the same missing backslash! I can see why a backslash could cause problems, as it is a commonly used escape character, for example in perl if you want to print a newline character it is \n, if you want to print a backslash you must place two together, \\. Still, it has never been a problem before. First guess, an IGate is eating the backslash. The examples he gave me showed three different IGate callsigns following the q construct, so a bad IGate was easily ruled out. Next I thought this pointed to a digi error somewhere, but further investigation shows the same error occuring in direct internet connected packets, for example look here: http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=DB9AZ-10 This isn't a findU problem, I can see the same bogus packets on aprsworld, nd grepping the live internet feed yeilded more examples. My present guess is somewhere a hub is eating the backslashes, probably a third tier hub in Europe, explaining why this is a central European problem. The trouble with this explanation is the hub must also be injecting a duplicate unaltered packet. I just can't see how this is happening. Maybe because I just woke up and am getting ready to work my 4th night shift in a row I'm missing something obvious. I'd love to hear a good explanation of this, it is one of the stranger things I've seen. It would also be nice to track down the offending hub, assuming that is indeed the source of the problem. Steve K4HG
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