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[aprssig] Did ICOM DSTAR ever take off ? can it be used for APRS ?

Andrew Rich vk4tec at tech-software.net
Wed Jun 22 07:19:45 UTC 2005


This discussions certainly strirred up some interest since my original post.

I have a mate that works with data radios in a commercial sense.

Who knows maybe one day we can throw away the audio injector ccts and 
just use data radios for APRS.



-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry Creager N5JXS [mailto:gerry.creager at tamu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 1:20 PM
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Did ICOM DSTAR ever take off ? can it be used for
APRS ?


First things first:  "Am I on the right track?":  No, I'm afraid not.

Wes Johnston wrote:
> I've never touched a Dstar rig, but my understanding is that while you
> talk in low speed data mode, 1/2 of 9600 is used for voice, the other
> 1/2 is used for 4800 baud serial data... so in an ideal world, I could
> hook my GPS up to the serial port and while I'm talking 100% of my GPS
> sentences are passed thru to all receivers as if the TNC were in
> converse mode.

Your first part of the understanding is essentially correct, save the 
voice component is 4800-baud effective 2FEC.  Correcting bit errors on 
the fly helps with the audio.  The remaining 4800-baud data stream is 
*still* addressed in a virtual circuit manner using ATM over radio. 
Because they're using "permanent" (as in, for the period of the 
transmission) virtual circuits, the connection from sender to receiver 
is end-to-end connected and *not broadcast generally.  It's like 
converse mode only between the 2 (connected) stations.

> I"m gunna ask the dumb question....
> 
> How do you know WHO is sending the data?  If it's converse mode, only
> the data portion of the packet shows up, none of the headers show up.

The circuit is nailed up when it's needed and torn down at the end of 
the transmission.  Both sides know who's talking to whom.

> Sounds like we need to take GPS data and encapsulate it in a 3rd party
> formatted frame.... sounds kinda clunky.

But that's what we're doing on AX.25.  It's clunky but that's how a 
layered system works.

You know, like IP.:-)

gerry
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