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[aprssig] Pete's NSR idea

Patrick Green pagreen at gmail.com
Fri Jun 24 16:13:00 UTC 2005

I haven't read the NSR idea but I'm opposed to any system that forces
*every* packet to conform to a standard.  I like to change paths
according to what I'm doing.  When messaging a local party, *I* change
my path to create the least packets to get to the destination or If
I'm responding to a DX posit during a band opening, I reduce my path
in hopes that there's an Igate close to other party.

The new paradigm has helped congestion in the busy Chicago area.  Now
we need to focus on the I-Gates that dupe dupe and redupe message
traffic when that kicks up.  It's amazing how much traffic a single
message can generate!

Recently I've been experimenting with white listing stations that have
bad paths.  I match the callsign AND the path they choose so if they
change the path, they get off of the list.  I retransmit them once and
trash it from there.  The thought it they originally weren't going to
get retransmitted so retransmitting once will get them into APRS-IS
for sure.  I can get to 4 I-Gates from where I am.

When I mobile I set the path to 1 hop WIDE1-1 (RELAY usually until the
local digi by my work changes over) and increase the frequency of my
transmissions.  I get better thruput and spare the network needless
congestion from me.

In summary, I like having a little flexability in where my packets go.
 Having something as rigid as NSR would bug me.

73 de Pat --- KA9SCF.

On 6/24/05, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> >>> needhame1 at plateautel.net 06/24/05 9:38 AM >>>
> > Bob has succeeded in getting people in the "sticks"
> >to change their digis so they will only repeat WIDE2-2
> >or less,
> Ah, but absolutely no where in anything I have ever written
> has that been what I said.  2-2 only applies to very
> dense or contiguous areas.  I even made a MAP of them
> from hard data.   What this demonstrates to you is that
> SYSOPS often do things that may not be the same that
> some users need in some areas.  Hence my concern over
> making a network based on NSR where the users are 100% at
> the mercy of some digi owners.
> Well managed NSR networks can work very well.
> But many digis are operted by absentee owners
> and by nature cannot be as responsive to changing
> needs as the current system.
> I have even said that in this higest density area
> of Wash DC and baltimore that we should ALLOW
> W3-3, but only encourage 2-2 for routine
> operations.
> Bob, WB4APR
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