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Two meter freqs in cable/TV systems; WAS Re: [aprssig] Yaesu FT1500M

Chris Rose kb8uih at sbcglobal.net
Sat Mar 12 03:41:42 UTC 2005


Hello,
I would argue that an operator needs to know how to
run his radio.  If a repeater has a tone that isn't
turned off, what are you going to be able to do for
them when they respond to your situation?  

Simplex in the open is great, but everyone needs to
carry cheat sheets or the entire manual to be able to
adjust their rigs on the fly to suit the situation.

Advertising the PL during a disclaimer during your net
ops can be accomplished.  As the net occurs, do you
advertise so to speak that the frequency is in use for
a directed net and will be used for X amount of hours
for the event?  It is a consideration to others that
may want to use the frequency, it helps incoming
operators find out how to check in, and many other
points to help run the net.  You have to identify your
net control station every so often, transmit the
disclaimer then.

How do hams from area A hear that they need help in
area C?  Does information come straight from the EC or
DEC or where?  I would hope that if a request came
from the chain of command, that all operational
details of what frequency and if so, what PL is being
used.  I am saying that so we don't go willy nilly
into a situation that we aren't asked to go to, also,
to say that requests for help have to give(Should
give) this kind of information.  Then, the responding
operators are prepared before they arrive and not
cause chaos by not being able to call anyone to get
their marching orders.

Thanks,
Chris 
KB8UIH
  
--- Charles Gallo <Charlie at TheGallos.com> wrote:
> 
> On 3/11/2005 Rich Garcia wrote:
> 
> > Pl is fine Charles but it's not a magic trick that
> makes a signal go away.
> 
> Agrees - I was more commenting on the fact that the
> original poster
> said that his CERT team could not listen to their
> simplex freq due to
> the squelch breaking all the time.  I did not notice
> he said it was
> THAT bad
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > PL will not make a signal go away, if you have a
> CATV carrier on a frequency
> > in your operational area or on a repeater input,
> it will just
> > keep you from hearing it but not keep you from
> being interfiered by it.
> 
> Agreed
> 
> > PL's in the way of EmComms is a bad thing,
> training or not. You may know
> > your PL but not everyone responding to your
> emergency may know what
> > it is and even if you tell them that does not mean
> they know how to set it.
> 
> Which is why, if we are working with outside teams,
> we will run
> without PL, and we drill that way TOO, also with
> repeaters
> 
> 
> > Training is key but you can not be assured that in
> a widspread
> > emergency it will only be your members responding.
> 
> Oh - totally agree - you have to be flexible about
> this.  There are
> times TO use PL, and times not to.  Of course, they
> are going to have
> to set their PL to get into a lot of the repeaters
> around here, but...
> 
> >  That comes from someone
> > who survived 2 hurricanes about 6 weeks apart from
> each other
> > and who's job took him to 2 additional hurricane
> stricken areaw in a matter
> > of 2 months. What we thought and what we trained
> for was true,
> > PL is fine day in and out but when the sheet hit
> the shan take the PL of.
> 
> Agreed
> 
> > OK off the soap box and I'll get back to packet.
> 
> Yep - sounds like a plan - I was just trying to
> bring up the idea that
> for intra team comms (which is where we mostly use
> simplex around
> here) PL often works, and a lot of folks don't think
> of PL on simplex
> for some reason!!!
> 
> A common scenario - 2 or 3 teams, each using their
> own simplex freq,
> WITH PL, and being coordinated via a repeater in
> common - allows the
> teams to "chatter" among the team more, and keeps
> the net clear
> 
> --  
> 73 de KG2V





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