[aprssig] Xastir install issues
huston at astro.princeton.edu
Wed Nov 30 11:07:06 CST 2005
On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:31, Bill Diaz wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Bill Diaz wrote:
>>> Do you use UiView? Have you looked at the API Roger
>>> provided. Until then,
>>> your opinions do not have much value, IMO. I have tried to
>>> install CygWin
>>> and XAstir but due to "XAstir install issues" I am unable to form an
>> So, likewise for opinions about Xastir then? ;-)
> As I keep telling you, I cannot install XAstir due to "Xasitr install
> issues" which you REFUSE to admit exists! How many times do you
> need to be
> told? I cannot form an opinion on something I can't install?
> Should be a
> simple concept for you to to understand, but apparently the
> challange is too
As should "take it to the Xastir email lists and off the general APRS
one", apparently a concept beyond your own reach.
>> Yea, I've run it before, just to see what it does. I used to
>> recommend it to people, back when Roger was around. I used to have
>> somewhat regular dialogs with Roger in terms of fixing this or that
>> in Xastir or UI-View32.
> If Roger helped you, why do disparage UiView so much? Especially
> Xastir has "install issues" and UiView does not.
With the number of people that I know that run Xastir on all
platforms, I would say that the program does not have "install
>> Your opinion. It's obvious you've got some hangup against
>> non-Windows clients, open-source clients, me personally, something.
>> I just don't know exactly what. This discussion is tiring though,
>> and going nowhere.
> Curt, as I have said repeatedly this thread is about "XAstir install
> issues". It is not about operating systems etc. This discussion
> is going
> nowhere since you aboslutely, positively refuse to admit that any
> install issues" exist.
And you refuse to bring up the problem you're having (which, I might
add, has been drowned out by so much other noise that I don't even
know, aside from "install issues", what the problem is) in the
appropriate forum. Are you the type to get on a mailing list for the
Kenwood TS-2000 and complain that your local repeater doesn't send a
CTCSS tone? Or would you bring it up with the club that runs that
> You quote out of context or ignore questions you
> don't want to answer. It gets personal when you make it so, by
> ignoring the
> facts and trying to attack me rather than address the issue at
> hand. You
> should really consider getting into politics, IMO, you seem be
> suited to that profession and would surely carry on it's fine
> history of
> distorting, or at the very least ignoring facts.
>> At least my hangups about various operating systems are out in the
>> open. I think every .sig for several years has had it plainly in
> Once again, we are not discussing operating systems, we are discussing
> "Xastir install issues" , or have you forgotten again? Your
> attempts to
> change the subject will not work here. Your hangup's about operating
> systems is not relevant to the discussion, which, once again is
> install issues".
*yawn* Alpo called, they'd like to use that horse when you're done.
>>> No, because you are not willing to address the "Xastir
>>> install issues" in
>> On this forum. Perhaps we should have a show of hands of how many
>> APRSSIG subscribers are tired of seeing all the Xastir stuff drug
>> through the mud here. I'd think a rather large majority. It's the
>> wrong forum for Xastir technical issues. Just as UI-View tech
>> issues should be discussed elsewhere.
> Lets see a show of hands how many APRSSIG subscribers who are tired
> of you
> ignoring the issue at hand and refusing to address the "XAstir install
Well, I'm tired of hearing about it entirely - but then again, that
could be because this issue is best served by a mailing list tailored
for Xastir (install issues or not), and not one for a general
discussion of APRS. Especially since, as of yet, there has been no
discussion of APRS in this thread entirely, only about a software
program which happens to utilize the protocol.
>>> Curt, in case you forgot, the topic is "XAstir install
>>> issues". Stop trying
>>> to change the subject and address the issue under discussion.
>>> Free maps and up-to-date maps are not the issue, though the
>>> commerical map
>>> are more up-to-date then most free maps. However, the issue
>>> is "XAstir
>>> install issues". Please address these issues.
>> Bring it to the Xastir list. Haven't I said that already? This is
>> all entirely off-topic. Stan, are you listening?
> Yep, you refuse to address the issue once again. Your position is
> tried and
> true, ignore it and it will go away, if that won't work, find a way to
> squelch all open discussions about the issue and it will go away.
I'll type this one slowly, in case you're not a fast reader: And you
refuse to take a discussion, which has no relevance on this list, to
a list where you could actually get help related to the problem at
hand. Your position is also tried and true, only I simply wish you
would ignore "it" - namely the repeated beating of one Dead Horse
until it's not even usable as glue.
Dave Baxter at least brought up his issues with the install process
on Windows in a relevant manner, and even brought up a question about
joining the Xastir mailing list. Dave, if you're still reading the
thread: Since you mentioned having used batch files in the "early
days", perhaps you were familiar with Usenet and can explain to Mr.
Diaz the meaning of the phrase "*plonk*"
(If not, http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html )
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