APRS RF DX? (Was RE: [aprssig] APRS in Atlanta - flooding the network)
Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.eduWed Oct 12 15:51:34 UTC 2005
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>>> dave at emv.co.uk 10/12/05 11:03 AM >>> >wide3-3..., would just ...[decrement] the ssid... >to "blank" when it all expires. Thereby keeping >the packet as short as possible. yes > Otherwise, it's not much different to the huge >routing strings that seem to occur when the likes >of Tracen-n is used? Yes, WIDEn-N now is the replacement for TRACEn-N. Yes, people think of those as LONG packets, but that is only because they are using LONG paths. Since we have detrmined in most of the USA that paths longer than 3 in most areas and longer than 2 hops in most metro areas are impractical, and cause so much flooding and collisions, they are no longer welcome. Therefore the fact that all WIDEn-N packets now arrive as a fully traced DIGI1,DIGI2,WIDE2* is considered as a great network advantage rather than as a problem of excess bytes... >As to PHG circles. Nice in principle, but in many >places ("non flat"territory etc) you just do not >get anywhere near a circular coverage, so >in many places, it would be very misleading to users. That is why PHG includes a DIRECTIVITY byte that offsets the pattern 10 dB or so in any favored direction as input by the user. This accounts for most blockage and favorable subtleties in local coverage. >It would also need people to actually understand >the RF parts of the system again. Sadly, many... >"operators" not wishing to know the in's and out's >of how it all works, But any Ham should know the height of his antenna and its gain and the favorable direction of his location. APRS software (but unfortuanately not UIview) has these parameters for the user to enter during setup and are just as important as his location: - LAT/LONG - Antenna Height above average terrain - Antenna Gain - Transmitter power - Favored direction (if significant) It is very unfortunate that UIview only asks its users for the LAT/LONG, thus leaving out completely the RF parameters that make RF network visualization possible to other APRS users. Fortunately there is a PHG add-on, but not enough people use it to make it worthwhile. As a result, APRS can no longer distinguish the communicaitons capability between a house with gain antenna on a hilltop compared to someone with an antenna on his deck at 6 feet. Whereas the communications range of these stations may differ by an order of magnitude. This is one of the contributing factors as to why many APRS users these days are quite in the dark about the RF network around them. They are not transmitting it, nor are they seeing it from others. Fortunately, the most useful PHG plots are when looking at the digis, and they mostly have their PHG coverage included. But we should make sure that UIView home stations acting as DIGIS should manually enter their PHG string for the benefit of others. de Wb4APR, Bob
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