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> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Transmitting data to a hot

keith allen ag4ac at earthlink.net
Sun Oct 23 14:13:18 UTC 2005


I agree with the conclusions and wording of the below statements to the
extent they go.

F. Keith Allen,  AG4AC
President, CCERC
NM, St Clair ARES Nets
My cellphone is a HAM Radio.You want to talk to me, GET A LICENSE!


> [Original Message]
> From: <w2pi at optonline.net>
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
> Cc: <kmcaviezel at global-western.com>
> Date: 10/19/2005 1:47:12 PM
> Subject: Re: > Subject: Re: [aprssig] Transmitting data to a hot
>
> This has been covered here many times over the years... but here goes
once again...
>
> Unattended (automatic control) transmission of one-way telemetry is
permitted under the US FCC amateur rules.
>
> With respect to one-way transmissions of weather information:
>
> 97.3(a)(45) defines "telemetry" as "a one-way transmission of
measurements at a distance from the measuring instrument."
>
> 97.111(b)(7) explicitly permits one-way transmission of telemetry
information.
>
> As for unattended transmitters:
> 97.3(a)(6) defines automatic control as "The use of devices and
procedures for control of a station when it is transmitting so that
complaince with the FCC Rules is achieved without the control operator
being present at a control point."
>
> 97.109(d) states that "When a station is being automatically controlled,
the control operator need not be at the control point...Automatic control
must cease ipon notification by a District Dierector that the station is
transmitting improperly..." 
>
> Under 97.221(b), "A station may be automatically controlled while
transmitting RTTY or data emissions on the 6 m or shorter wavelength
bands..."
>
> I'm not a lawyer (and I don't play one on TV), but these rules tell me
that:
>
> 1. Using an amateur radio transmitter to transmit weather data (or the
position of an aircraft, for that matter) is a permited one-way
transmission. (One way means there does not have to be an intended
recipient.)
>
> 2. It is permitted to build a tracker that has built in identification
and put it in a place or vehicle that is not attended by a licensed
amateur, as long as you can get to it and turn it off if it creates a
problem.
>
> (flame resistant clothing on)
>
> 73,
> Paul W2PI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Amirault <ramirault at erols.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:47 pm
> Subject: Re: > Subject: Re: [aprssig] Transmitting data to a hot
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "K. Mark Caviezel"
> > Subject: > Subject: Re: [aprssig] Transmitting data to a hot
> > 
> > 
> > >> From: "Richard Amirault" <ramirault at erols.com>
> > >> I assume you would be doing this on the ham bands.
> > >> Unless there is a ham
> > >> onboard the balloon I don't think that this would be
> > >> legal ...
> > >
> > >>>>> huh?  since when did you have to be a liscenced
> > > ham to listen ?
> > 
> > The "listening" part is the part you deleted from the quote of my 
> > message.
> > Hams are supposed to talk to other hams, not the general public, 
> > aren't 
> > they?  A ham transmission, be it voice, fast scan TV, data, or 
> > whatever,  to 
> > the general public at large is called 'broadcasting'  That's 
> > against the 
> > rules.   A transmission from a ham to a single, specific non-ham 
> > is, as far 
> > as I understand it, also against the rules .. THAT was the way the 
> > original 
> > question was phrased. (something to the effect of:  "I want to 
> > transmit WX 
> > data to a hot air baloon")
> > 
> > Richard Amirault              N1JDU
> > Boston, MA, USA          Go Fly A Kite 
> > 
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