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[aprssig] Lets Fix New-N now!

keith allen ag4ac at earthlink.net
Sat Oct 29 13:30:36 UTC 2005


Got ur msg.  Thanks.

F. Keith Allen,  AG4AC
President, CCERC, Al
Net Mgr, St Clair ARES Nets, Alabama
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> [Original Message]
> From: Curt, WE7U <archer at eskimo.com>
> To: <ag4ac at earthlink.net>; TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
> Cc: J T <w0jrt at yahoo.com>
> Date: 10/25/2005 10:52:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [aprssig] Lets Fix New-N now!
>
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, keith allen wrote:
>
> > The three nearest digis that I know of near my home stn are in fact
older
> > tnc's that to my knowledge still use relay as the myalias line.
> > Hence, the reason for the "relay".    As for wide1-1, I kind of figured
> > that one of these folks might switch without informing me.  As for
wide, we
> > also have a couple of those floating around nearby.  Then I use wide
2-2 as
> > the catch all for the other end.  yes, I agree it may seem like
overkill,
> > but I'm still experimenting with the better mousetrap.
>
> Problem is:  Unless you have digipeaters around you that can do
> pre-emptive digipeating (digi_ned is the only one I currently know
> of which can do that), then the first unused digipeater slot listed
> in your path must be acted upon before the next digipeater slot can
> come into play.  If you have RELAY as the first in your path then
> only a RELAY station can digipeat your signal, the rest of the
> digipeaters will ignore your packet.
>
> Same goes for the next slot, if you have WIDE in the second slot and
> some home RELAY station picked you up first and digipeated you, but
> the hilltops are all WIDEn-N, then they will ignore you because of
> the WIDE.  That's assuming a path of RELAY,WIDE,WIDE2-2 or similar.
>
> In the Northwest here we decided a while back that the best/least
> painless way of converting was to set a date and then just switch
> over to WIDEn-N.  It was done relatively quickly and there are
> probably a small number of APRS users that still haven't caught up,
> but we're contacting them as we find them and helping them along.
>
> We no longer support RELAY/WIDE/TRACE/TRACEn-N on our hilltops.
> Some home stations still support RELAY but more are being converted
> over to WIDE1-1 all the time.
>
> Mobiles around here tend to run "WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1", and fixed
> stations mostly "WIDE2-2".  In more rural parts some people run
> "WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2" or "WIDE3-3" instead.
>
> I encourage you to drop the old paths and switch over as quickly as
> possible.  Your network will be the better for it.  We have better
> tracks now for mobiles/portables in the area and there's certainly
> more dead-air space now then previously.
>
> --
> Curt, WE7U.   APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
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