[aprssig] How should this work -> TRACE WIDE2-2

N0YXV - Stan Coleman n0yxv at gihams.org
Wed Sep 14 23:10:19 CDT 2005

I've also taken the liberty to send messages to passing travelers that
our area is now WIDEn-N. That way they can make changes for the next

-----Original Message-----
From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Herb Gerhardt
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:48 PM
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
Subject: RE: [aprssig] How should this work -> TRACE WIDE2-2

I too encourage ALL digi owners/caretakers to update to the new Paradigm
Settings WITHOUT any transition to the old settings.

That means that RELAY, WIDE, TRACE and TRACEn-N would no longer work.
The users would then have to figure out why they are no longer making
the APRS system.  We here in the NW made that decision a number of
months ago and we still have not reached everyone.  Some digi owners
have not changed to the new settings and some have been "nice" guys and
changed their settings to support both the old and new settings.  That
may seem like the right thing to do but it is not.  It only causes
people to procrastinate forever and not upgrade their APRS stations and
trackers to the new settings.  So please everyone, lets update our APRS
settings nationwide to the new settings. This change was made to make
the APRS system function better and to be able to use a universal
tracker path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 that will work in all areas of the US
including Canada.

For the recommended settings, see our web page below my signature.  Also
note our web site has changed from nwaprs.org to nwaprs.info.  Please
update your Favorite lists accordingly.


Herb, KB7UVC
NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator
Our WEB Site:  http://www.nwaprs.info

> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org 
> [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Brad [VE3BSM]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:15 AM
> To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [aprssig] How should this work -> TRACE WIDE2-2
> >>
> I used to have both the old settings and the new settings thinking I 
> was being nice to people that haddn't switched over. I have since 
> revisited my thinking and removed all support for the old settings. My

> current thinking is "Tough Love" if we keep pandering to the old 
> settings people won't need to (or want
> to) switch. As soon as their packets stop getting digipeated they 
> might start asking around to find out why it's not working. I have 
> meet several Hams that get it Packet or RTTY or some other special 
> area and then move on to other areas of interest. When they leave one 
> specialty for another they continue to leave their stations operating,

> and don't revisit settings unless something stops working. So it's 
> possible that many of these stations
> simply don't know and if their settings stop working they might
> start asking
> around. It's just another way to reach people and spread the word
> about the
> new settings.
> <<
> I'm with you. I did the Bulletin Spam thing for quite some time, 
> typically in 3- to 5-day spurts with a couple of weeks in between. But

> still there were people who were aware of the request, but figured 
> since their stuff worked, why change it (ie. "if it ain't broke..."). 
> Well, I'm about to complete the upgrades to our last two WIDE-area 
> digis, and they *will* be broke. That should persuade them. :->
> Brad.

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