[aprssig] Aircraft EMC, was Balloons, Ham Radio and APRS in UK
Dave Baxter dave at emv.co.ukWed Apr 26 08:59:47 UTC 2006
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Oh how wrong that statement is! > The FAA has been made aware that interference issues on aircraft probably don't exist, They "may" not exist with current phone/pda/laptop technology, as far as most critical systems are concerned (flight controls, navigation, engines on civil airliners etc. Light aircraft are totally different of course.) But from tests done here in the UK, that our company were involve with (we provided much of the equipment to do the tests, on a real aircraft, typical of the fleet used by most airlines, not a test setup) there are some serious problems with QRM getting into of all things, the flight deck pilot intercom, at apparently quite "loud" levels. Just about all the wiring on a 'plane, eventually ends up going back to the avionics bay, under the pilots feet we were told. These tests were done not that long ago at Gatwick airport here in the UK, on the ground it has to be said, but with proper EMC test procedures in place, at the frequencies and power levels representative of most of the mobile networks in use today, and one or two of the proposed systems. RF was launched from various places within the passenger area, and field strengths recorded elsewhere, and other systems were also monitored in real time. It was quite surprising how much field could be produced by relatively low power levels, after all, there is not that much RF Absorber in a 'plane, other than the "ugly bags of mostly water" sitting all over the place! And they only do a reasonable job of damping down 2.45GHz or thereabouts. In any case, if you were taking off, or more likely trying to land in bad conditions (it happens!) would you want the pilot to suddenly have a burst of cell phone QRM in his ears, at an "interesting" moment. Considering that most of the world wide civil aircraft fleet has the majority of it's wiring unscreened, (to keep weight down) and a lot of it runs along just above you head when you are in your seat, so until they have all exceeded their airframe hours and been taken out of service, or been modified (some are going that route as an experiment) common sense is not to have any passenger induced RF in the things, at all... On a personal note, I am amazed whenever I fly these days, that some people (usually arrogant business types who should know better) just "have" to call their office/wife/mistress, even before the wheels have hit the ground on occasions, after there has been an explicit instruction (not a request) to turn off all electronic devices prior to landing, not that a phone should have been "On" in any case. There are even people who do not know how to turn off a phone, and think that just locking the keypad is enough... Yes, I know some PDA's and the like have a "Flight Mode", but again, how many non technical owners actually know what, how and why that is there?... If in doubt, remove the battery, that'll do it! They may not be as serious as some would make out, depending on your point of view, but there are some EMC issues of note, with some passenger aircraft systems and cell phones being used inside the passenger cabin. Sorry this went on a bit..... 73. Dave G0WBX. www.wmv.co.uk
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