[aprssig] 9600b UHF APRS IS THE FUTURE OF APRS
VE7GDH ve7gdh at rac.caMon Oct 9 16:24:29 UTC 2006
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Gregg W5GGW wrote... > The "better" coverage of VHF is, in fact, the > bigger problem the current APRS network has. > > Cellular and wide area network technologies use higher > frequencies and lower power to simplify life and create a > more dependable system, not to cause themselves to > spend more money on more cell sites. And Bob WB4APR had written earlier... > VHF is 9 dB better than UHF for omni antennas (think mobiles) > AND it has less multipath and fades. So APRS at UHF may have > practical applications, but serving as a general distribution it will > never be as "good" as VHF. Good postings by both! I have been suggesting for a long time (ummm... better let me re-phrase that; for a couple of years or so!) that we need to operate more like the cellular network. Instead of more "big" digis up at a higher elevation, we need more "small" digis at least in the populated areas with less coverage. Perhaps densely populated areas could work on a low powered UHF network for operation in the concrete jungle. The existing VHF infrastructure could remain in place or be pruned a bit. Keep the high elevation VHF digis for operation away from densely populated areas, consider removing a few high elevation digis if they are causing more harm than good, and encourage 1200 bps UHF APRS for the densely populated areas. This concept would work better if the stations in the densely populated areas reduced their power when they are in an area with a large number of low elevation digis. The ideal situation would be radios that are both frequency agile so they can move seamlessly between densely populated areas with good UHF coverage and out in the boonies where they need to change back to VHF and up the power a bit. Even better, the output power would automatically adjust itself either based on the strength of received signals (from digis only) or upon confirmation of being digipeated. Lofty goals, and it won't happen overnight. At the very least, we could work on moving some of he high elevation digis near populated areas to lower elevations and encourage building of UHF digis in the same densely populated areas. Users could be asked to stick to low power when needed. These can all be done without fancy frequency agile radios that automatically adjusted their power output. I'm not putting down 9600 bps packet. I've never even owned a 9600 bps TNC (until now... just received a beta TT4 the other day) so don't have any first-hand experience with the vagaries of 9600 bps on RF, but I'm all for developing equipment for faster and more robust packet connections. There are those experimenting with 9600 bps packet, notably in the Seattle / Puget Sound area, but for general use, it sounds like there are advantages of 1200 vs 9600 and there are advantages on VHF vs UHF, but both will have a place. It's just time & money, and the enthusiasm for development new equipment. I'm hoping the commercial manufacturers don't abandon us, but I'm increasingly getting the impression that development of "leading edge RF communications" is again putting the ball back in our court instead of leaving it up to the commercial manufacturers telling us what they can provide. 73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH -- "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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