[aprssig] More efficient use of channel capicity through shorter packets
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf2 at aol.comThu Oct 12 16:25:23 UTC 2006
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ron.stordahl at digikey.com wrote: > > > The Motorola Micor's are crystal controlled and work very well. I do > not know if one could run a modern synthesized mobile radio with TDX > as low as 100 milliseconds...my recollection..and it is from many > years ago..was that such radios required a longer TXD for their > frequency to settle down after key down. This may no longer be true. > It depends entirely on the synthesizer scheme in a particular radio. In some radios, the synthesizer shifts from being the RX local oscillator (i.e. offset from the operating frequency by the IF frequency) to being on-channel when you transmit. This is the classic version of a synthesized design. It has the minimum parts count and complexity and is the slowest settling. In other designs, the synthesizer always remains on the RX local osc frequency. On TX, a crystal oscillator on the IF frequency is turned on and mixed with the LO to generate the TX frequency. In this scheme, the synthesizer doesn't have to un-lock and re-lock on a new freq each time you TX. The TX settling becomes just the startup time of the crystal osc -- just as fast as the classic crystal-controlled radios. [Note that this approach is a "true" transceiver just like an HF SSB rig where the TX uses the RX IF, local osc and mixer chain backwards on TX. ] And then there are the newest designs that use DDS (direct digital synthesis). These designs don't use a PLL system at all; basically they clock a D-to-A converter with a waveform derived from a crystal osc and variable divide-by-N counter. They can effectively slew instantly from one frequency to another, limited only by how fast a controller can load the divider with a new divide-by value. In the early 1980s, I was involved in one of the first public safety mobile data projects. We had a "fast draw" competition between the crystal-controlled radios of the day (the Motorola Micor and the GE Mastr II) to determine which could key up in the fewest number of milliseconds. Out of the box the Micor keyed up much faster. We determined that the GE "ICOMs" (Integrated Compensated Osc Modules - a crystal combined with a temp-compensated dedicated oscillator in a can, for each channel) were slow on the startup when powered up on TX. These radios used crystals operating at 1/12th or 1/18th of the operating frequency with a chain of frequency multipliers to get to the operating freq. We wired the TX ICOMs (oscillators) to be powered ALL the time to avoid the startup and settling time. This of course would have produced a continuous dead carrier in the receiver. We got around this by modifying the radio to turn the power to the multiplier chain on and off while leaving the (1/18th TX freq) osc running all the time. We were able to get the time from keyup to full TX down to 7 milliseconds with this expedient. The moral of all this is that crystal-controlled radios aren't neccesarily fast on the draw and not all synthesized ones are slow. -- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band] Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com NEW! JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm UI-View Misc Notes and FAQ http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs/UIview_Notes.htm "APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/DigiPaths Updated "Rev G" APRS http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs Symbols Set for UI-View, UIpoint and APRSplus:
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