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[aprssig] RE: New EU Paradigm

Cap Pennell cap at cruzio.com
Wed Sep 20 21:11:06 UTC 2006


But if you simply gave up the old RELAY (like North Americans have) you
could as easily travel to other continents too.  Then it's easier and no
problem (and fewer dupe packets possibly colliding and reducing throughput).
Some in Europe have already given up the RELAY (and TRACEn-N).
73, Cap KE6AFE

> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org
> [mailto:aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Andrzej AB9FX
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:08 AM
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] RE: New EU Paradigm
>
>
> According to http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs/new-eu-paradigm.txt
> only difference in Europe is old RELAY not the new WIDE1-1 like in the US.
> WIDEn-n and SSn-n work the same way in the new EU Paradigm like in the US.
> So, what is the problem when crossing borders? You can use in your mobile
> RELAY,WIDE2-2 and go through whole continent.
> 73!
> Andy
> AB9FX, SP3LYR
> www.aprs.pl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cap Pennell" <cap at cruzio.com>
> To: "APRSSIG" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:28
> Subject: [aprssig] RE: New EU Paradigm
>
>
> > While certainly not wanting to cram anything down anybody's throat, I'd
> > suggest dropping support for any "EU Paradigm" and instead only holding
> > out
> > the more efficient North American system as a potential international
> > model
> > too.  The Newn-N system is better here in North America now and
> can help
> > in
> > Europe or elsewhere too as their networks grow.  I don't think
> any useful
> > purpose is served by encouraging conflicting non-interoperable
> "regional"
> > paradigms.  It's a small world after all.
> > One good thing about the North American Newn-N Paradigm is that we've
> > already seen it can be slowly (and quite painlessly) "grown"
> from earlier,
> > less efficient, systems (and aliases).
> >
> > The international http://info.aprs.net already shows Ireland is
> supporting
> > the more modern digipath system.  Over time, others will too because it
> > better avoids "reduced throughput".
> > 73, Cap KE6AFE
> >
> > P.S.  Why encourage forcing APRSers to change digipath settings just
> > because
> > they've crossed a "border"?  It's already bad enough that some travelers
> > have to change _frequency_ to rejoin the VHF APRS network just because
> > they've flown across borders.





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