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[aprssig] RE: "Local Info" confusion...

Tim Cunningham tim_cunningham at mindspring.com
Tue Apr 24 17:32:16 UTC 2007


In UI-View, you must enable Options->Highlight IGATES.

The UIDIGI digipeater transmitting the originating third party packet format 
will be identified as an IGATE as soon as UI-View receives the first 
originating third party packet from it. UI-View will then place a box around 
that transmitting digipeater. The object with the antenna will appear as 
normal, but the transmitting digipeater will be identified as an IGATE as 
soon as it receives the first originating third party packet from that 
digipeater. If you click on the details for the originating digipeater, 
UI-View will identify it as an IGATE on the dialogue box.

When the originating third party packet format was removed from multiple 
UIDIGI digipeaters, the problem disappeared from UI-View for all stations 
transmitting an originating third party packet beacon! A third party packet 
begins with the symbol "}" in the beacon text. Please make sure you are 
talking about the same type of packet transmission.

Here are a couple of examples using the third party format that were 
programmed remotely to update 7 of the UIDIGI digipeaters:

BT 3 }146.940->APOBJ:!3444.27N/08631.98WrPHG7730 PL 100.0 Net Th 730PM
BT 3 }146.900->APOBJ:!3443.  N/08631.  WrPHG7700 PL 123.0 Net Th 7PM
BT 3 }147.180+>APOBJ:!3429.  N/08637.  WrPHG7730 PL 100.0 Brindley  Mtn
BT 3 }147.270+>APOBJ:!3431.  N/08537.  WrPHG7760 PL 100.0 Net Th 630PM
BT 3 }145.270->APOBJ:!3424.  N/08723.  WrPHG7630 PL 107.2 Net Tu 7PM
BT 3 }145.310->APOBJ:!3413.  N/08651.  WrPHG7700 PL 100.0 Net Su 830PM
BT 3 }145.150->APOBJ:!3448.  N/08658.  WrPHG7630 PL 100.0 Net Th 7PM

If your beacon text does not look like the above examples, then you are not 
talking about the same thing (position ambiguity was utilized on all but 
one).

What is the digipeater callsign and the object name it transmits that you 
are referring? This should clarify any doubt.

Perhaps it only happens in Alabama because we are South of the Mason-Dixon 
line ;>)



73's,

Tim - N8DEU
Huntsville, Alabama



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh at rac.ca>
To: <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [aprssig] RE: "Local Info" confusion...


> Bob WB4APR wrote...
>
>> When Alabama implemented this in all their digis, it was soon
>> observed that all UI-View clients would mark the DIGIPEATERS
>> as IGATES that were the source of these 3rd party voice repeater
>> objects.
>
> That isn't my observation here. There's a stand-alone TNC-based digi at my
> elbow that is beaconing an object for the local repeater. I'm viewing it 
> in
> UI-View and it just shows as an "antenna" symbol and isn't marked as being
> an IGate. I don't see a problem here, so nothing needs to be fixed, but 
> I'm
> curious why that would happen in Alabama.
>
> Also, at www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/localinfo.html you say "Because of
> errors in UI-View which prevents the display of PHG range data and also
> prevents the use of the 3rd party format, we cannot use the very valuable
> PHG data for showing the ranges of these voice repeaters." UI-View "out of
> the box" doesn't display PHG but with the UI-PHG add-on that is freely
> available, it does. I just checked and it displays the PHG just fine for 
> the
> local repeater that the digi is sending out as an object. What do you mean
> by "errors in UI-View"? Someone reading that without prior knowledge of
> UI-View might take it at face value.
>
> 73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
> -- 
> "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
>
>
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