[aprssig] D-Star replacement for APRS: [Was: D710 GPS Port]
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf2 at aol.comTue Aug 14 18:17:54 UTC 2007
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William McKeehan wrote: > Has anyone looked at D-Star as a potential replacement for APRS? > > It seems to have a lot of the basic functionality. > There are a LOT of technical, organizational and political obstacles to this ever happening. Partly as a result of the APRS founders shoe-horning and somewhat kludging APRS into the protocols, hardware and infrastructure of the preceding connected-packet era (do I dare use that over-used buzzword "leverage"?), APRS has succeeded because it has allowed us to do a lot of "neat stuff" with really cheap existing hardware. This will *NOT* be the case with D-Star. A migration to D-Star will be a wrenching total transition to *ALL NEW* base stations, mobiles, hand-helds and repeater infrastructure. D-Star is not a short-burst packetized transmission format. It's primarily a digitized voice format that can carry a limited amount of other data embedded in the main voice data stream. As a result, the simple single-frequency store-and-forward "digipeaters" we use on APRS won't work with it. You would be faced with coordinating a traditional full-blown two-frequency "repeater pair", along with using a separate receiver, transmitter and duplexer, just like present voice repeaters. Further , getting more than one repeater hop isn't a matter of the second repeater hearing the first one, and then retransmitting what it hears a moment later. It involves a complex land-mobile-style backbone of links on another band, usually 1200 MHz to connect repeaters together in real time. Further, no manufacturer seems to have adopted it, except Icom. While the only mfr to officially support APRS is Kenwood, at least you *CAN* add APRS hardware (TNCs, TinyTracks, Open Tracks, etc.) to other radios. This is not going to be the case with D-Star which is an entirely digital modulation technique totally different from the analog FM we use with APRS packet, that is built-into purpose-built radios. It is very unlikely you would be able to add D-Star to any existing radio, especially hand-helds. Achieving anything remotely like the coverage of the current analog-FM-packet-based APRS network (where just about any FM radio made in the last 30 years or so can be pressed into duty as a digipeater by adding a $50 TNC). Duplicating this coverage with D-Star would require literally tens of millions of dollars of brand-new infrastructure. Further, the present network reflects the sum total of a lot of small steps made independently by clubs and individuals. A nationwide D-Star "APRS- replacement" infrastructure would require a degree of coordination (and financial commitment) by clubs and individuals unprecedented in amateur radio. My guess is that we will get "islands" of D-Star activity in major metropolitan areas (where the population density of hams is great enough to support the major infrastructure investments required) , surrounded by hundreds (or thousands) of miles of non-coverage. I.E. the individual ham or small club in a small mid-western town or rural Kentucky that threw up an old hand-me-down 2-meter rig and a TNC to fill in the APRS network at almost no cost, is NOT going to lay out the several thousand dollars minimum to put up a D-Star repeater, let alone the backbone to link it to other D-Star systems. Before they make this major investment, users are far more likely to use Internet access from their cellphones to send/display GPS position reports and send/receive short text messages. (Envision an APRS-like application overlaid on Google Maps running on an iPhone-like device.] -- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band] Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com --OR-- http://wa8lmf.net NEW! World Digipeater Map http://wa8lmf.net/APRSmaps JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm "APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths Updated "Rev H" APRS http://wa8lmf.net/aprs Symbols Set for UI-View, UIpoint and APRSplus: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/aprssig/attachments/20070814/8db3c53f/attachment.htm
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