APRS-IS backbone operators - WAS: Re: [aprssig] findU Messages

[Phillip B. Pacier]

Richard Nicholas Piper IV wrote:
>
>     Matt I was not saying that all data is not accurate. I was talking
>     about CWOP which NOAA has said it does not want on T2 servers. I
>     will not get into why becuase we have all seen the messages from
>     Phill and Stave on this.
>
>  
> What I am getting at is the it is in the best instrest of APRS and Ham 
> Radio if we all could just put our past behind use and realize that 
> some of us rely on data sent to APRS-IS and that data needs to be as 
> accurate as possible. Thus my reason for connecting to no-T2 when I 
> need to see CWOP info.
>  
> I am not trying to bash anyone here. I am just trying to make a point 
> that in order for younger folks to come on board and stay with Ham 
> Radio we need not get into aurguments and bash each other. I speak 
> from experence on this as I left a Ham Club in the past becuase of the 
> aurguments and bashing that went on. It's bad for Ham Radio and trust 
> me PEOPLE WILL GO TO ANOTHER HOBBY!

Then how do you explain a message on findU saying that unless you are 
connected to a certain server, do not bother asking for help?  How does 
that further the hobby and invite people to continue to evolve in ham 
radio and weather spotting?

>  
> Folks being 26 I see that we need to get "new blood" into Ham Radio. 
> However, I don't think the new blood is going to come on when they 
> join a list like this on or others that have to do with Ham Radio and 
> see all the basing and aurguments that are going on. Ham Radio is 
> suposed to be a fun enjoyable hobby, but to me right now it's not as I 
> have to read email almost weekly where people are basing this or that 
> person. What ever happened to the "TRUE MEANING OF HAM RADIO?" The one 
> where someone wanted to help a friend out? The one where you didn't 
> bash or have a aurgement with another operator? The one where we all 
> go alone and helped each other out even when we thought the other 
> operator was wrong, they may but; but if we helped them out them both 
> of us could learn.

Again, that is the original question I raised.  Where is the true 
meaning of ham radio in what is being propagated on the findU pages?  
I'm only 31 - I'm not that far ahead of you (whatever that means or for 
whatever it's worth).

>  
> To Steve with the Core, why not work to support Ham Radio and work 
> with T2? Yes I know that I have "boycotted" them in the past but the 
> reason I say this know is that God is showing me that in order for Ham 
> Radio to progress we all MUST WORK TOGETHER AND STOP THE BASHING AND 
> AURGUING.

Again (and finally), it is something I have been trying to do for six 
years.  Being a God fearing man myself, I have extended the olive branch 
to Steve on more than one occasion.  The reason we are actually a 
third-tier network is because Steve has convinced the core sysops not to 
allow for assured connections for our thirty-plus servers.  We were told 
flat out that if we were unable to connect, that was too bad.  Nothing 
further on this - it has always been Tier 2 that has put forth the 
effort to work with every area of APRS.

73
Phil - AD6NH