[aprssig] APRS resolution and symbols
Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.eduTue Oct 2 00:24:49 UTC 2007
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>> The OpenTRAC spec already gives you something >> like 2 cm resolution... > > Can the two share 144.390 with a gradual changeover? > That eventually leaves a lot of APRS users with > hardware... and software that would become obsolete. Things move pretty slowly. WIDEn-N came out in 1998, 10 years ago, and look at how long it is taking to get HAMS to change from RELAY and WIDE... Throwing out all backwards compatibility to 30,000 users so that a few people who can have GPS resoultion to 2 centimeters but who then cannot be seen by any one else, just undermines APRS communications integrity. When the whole point of APRS is to promote consistent information communications between users. The APRS spec does contain resolution to 1 foot that IS backwards compatible to ALL 30,000 users. No need to re-invent the wheel... > Case in point... OpenTRAC will have an almost > unlimited ability to add more symbols. APRS has > only a handful of unused symbols. Not true. Adding the symbol-a-week guarantees a loss in communications integrity when not everyone has the new symbol sets every-week. As a case in point, it seems to take YEARS for most clients to implement a changed SYMBOL set even when we only add a few per year! Imagine how impossible it would be to communicate if all clients had to keep up with the new symbol table of the week... Back in 1996 we increased APRS from one symbol byte (91 symbols) to two bytes yielding over 3200 potential symbols. At that time there were 700 defined, but WinAPRS wanted no more because each additional one required special coding. This summer, APRS1.2 (which the new Kenwoods have already adopted) is expanding the use of that symbol set. Just a month ago, we defined a new symbol "O-" for OPERATOR PRESENT. > Every mobile APRS user not in a vehicle, > aircraft, on horseback or in a wheelchair is a > jogger... none are standing still, walking, > skiing, hiking or whatever. And every time you bring this up, I tell you that the only reason that HUMAN symbol was initially called a JOGGER was because in APRSdos, the only menu key I had at the time (1997) was "J". And back then I was trying to keep an association between each letter of the alphabet and each symbol for easy entry. But that was 10 years ago. Now selections are not made by name any more! So it is not a jogger, it is a human figure. If you look at the SYMBOL definitions, you will see that the symbol is named HUMAN. And I still hold back on wasting symbol sets for trying to define such meaningless differentiations between Standing, Walking or Hiking HUMANS! How is the SKIER with a tracker and an HT going to change his symbol from a SKIER to a HIKER or to a WALKER each time he takes his skiis off, or changes from boots to shoes? To satisfy your complaints about the skier symbol, I have now added the symbol "S[" as a skier, so that we don't have to re-hear this complaint every winter... How many years will it be now until ALL software authors implement it? And not until all of them do, will you have any assurance that what you send wille be displayed as intended. Bob, Wb4APR
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