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[aprssig] Need Path Mentoring

Steve Noskowicz noskosteve at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 21 02:31:42 UTC 2007



Hi Robbie,

  All the packets I posted, from findu, are from
Wednesday evening and I don't expect to make more for
a few more days.  I'll have to make some more and look
again.  Low power, add an attenuator and drive around
!!  Sounds time consuming...hell, I'm retired aren't I
??

   If I can get some correlation to the PMON display
and the audible squwak (I assume the display appears
"immediately" after the squwak) , perhaps I can at
least get a relative distance/strength - also use the
handheald... and learn what it sounds like.  I did
hear one packet which sounded very under deviated that
day.  

  Though I do carry a beam & attenuator in the trunk
(;-)
  My Doppler isn't completed and I have one I was
fixing, but it still doesn't work properly - I think
an antenna problem.  
   I don't think the FM Dopplers handle a Beacon well,
but haven't actually made observations. 
  I won't go into details why it works, but there's a
fella around here who modified his Doppler to work on
FM or AM.  Perhaps I can contact him...

Thanks for the confirmation.  Maybe I'll get it yet,
Steve


.  
--- "Robbie, wa9inf" <mwrobertson at comcast.net> wrote:

> Steve, I've logged a couple of the WIDE3-3 alias
> substitution over the 
> past weekend.. I believe some one was trying to set
> something up, but it 
> has been difficult for me to drive around very much
> with just a path of 
> WIDE1-1 and locate the station. It seems to have
> stopped by me??
> 
> Robbie
> 
> Steve Noskowicz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >   Man!  Every time I think I “get” paths and
try
> > looking, I realize I have far exceeded the
> half-life
> > of the knowledge.  I also understand that the new
> > paradigm and reality aren’t necessarily equal
> which
> > can cause confusion as well.
> > 
> >   Looking in the menu, I verify that my D700 is
> set
> > for WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,   which I believe is
> supported
> > by:
> > 
> >     
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Fl!h>/]"6]}
> > 
> > Meaning that:  IGate N9IOG heard me directly and
> shot
> > me into the APRS-IS, right?  _____
> > 
> > 
> >   Yet, the other day, I was watching the Packet
> > Monitor and I saw  “WIDE3…” associated with
some
> of my
> > packets.  And, lo-and-behold, there’re popping
out
> on
> > the net as well (shown below – they seem to
> ‘prefer’
> > appearing in pairs).  
> >   I can’t get this to fit what I thought the
> paradigm
> > is.  
> >    So, what are possible interpretations?
> > 
> > 1- My D700 needs its sinuses cleared?
> > 
> > 2- Seeing WIDE3-3 in the first slot suggests a
> Digi is
> > substituting “WIDE3-3” for my “WIDE1-1”
since
> there
> > are digi calls after it?  Eh?
> > 
> > Excerpts from Raw data:
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0P,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Zn4d>/]"6[}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,K9ABC-10*,WIDE2,qAo,N9QBW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> > 
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,WX9MKX,WIDE2*,qAo,N9QIP:'t(Fl!h>/]"6`}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,K9ABC-10*,WIDE2,qAo,N9QIP:'t(Fl!h>/]"6a}
> > 
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0P,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Zn4d>/]"6[}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,WA9CJN-15*,WIDE2,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6]}
> > 
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3*,K8BRC*,WIDE2*,qAo,N8FQ:'t(El-Q>/]
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0T,WIDE3-3*,K8BRC*,WIDE2*,qAo,N8FQ:'t(EliW>/]"6[}
> > 
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(El-Q>/]
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0T,WIDE3-3,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(EliW>/]"6[}
> > 
> > Note that in these examples, there are actual call
> > signs with the “*” appended.  Is that part of
“The
> > New”??  or a mix of new and old.   I thought the
> “old”
> > was to accept it and append the “*”,   but new
is
> only
> > to substitute – but remember that half-life
> effect.
> > (:-).
> > 
> >   Then come the other path questions.
> > 
> > Seeing this:
> > 
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2Q,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t+O
> > Hu>/]"6X}
> > Does this say that K9ESV-3 is accepting the
> WIDE1-1?  
> > Also, rather than substituting, is it *inserting*
> its
> > call and putting the “*” after the “WIDE1”
part of
> the
> > “WIDE1-1”  ???
> > 
> > I guess I’ll stop here.  This appears to be a
> mixing
> > of call sign substitution and the old paradigm –
> > something that is not entirely out of the
> question. 
> > The fella doing K9ESV, while a nice guy trying to
> do
> > it correctly, has expressed doubt and asked me
> (yea,
> > right) to look at his parameters.
> > More packets from findu or here’s the link to my
> Raw
> > packets:
> > http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=K9DCI-9
> > 
> >
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2Q,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t+O
> > Hu>/]"6X}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV2S,N9IJ-10,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t*,ofu>/]"6T}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV0Y,N9IJ-10,WIDE1,NS9RC,WIDE2*,qAO,AB9FX:'t)L
> > g*>/]"6K}
> >
> K9DCI-9>TRRV2Q,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAo,W9TMW:'t+O
> > Hu>/]"6X}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV2S,N9IJ-10,WIDE1,K9ESV-3,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t*,ofu>/]"6T}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0P,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Zn4d>/]"6[}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV9W,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(emzz>/]"6_}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,K9ESV-3,WIDE1,WA9CJN-15*,WIDE2,qAo,N9MXQ:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV9W,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAo,W9TMW:'t(emzz>/]"6_}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,K9ESV-3,WIDE1,WA9CJN-15*,WIDE2,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6_}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0S,K9ESV-3,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,qAo,W9TMW:'t(Fl!h>/]"6`}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRW0V,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(El45>/]"6Y}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV9X,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N9OIG:'t(ll"f>/]"6^}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV9X,K9SA,N9IJ-10,WIDE2*,qAR,N9OIG:'t(ll"f>/]"6_}
> >
>
K9DCI-9>TRRV9X,K9SA,N9IJ-10,WIDE2*,qAo,W9TMW:'t(ll"f>/]"6^}
> > 
> > 73 Steve, l9DCI
> >  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - end - - - - - - - - -
> - -
> > - 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >        
> >
>
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