[aprssig] Re: D-STAR video on YouTube

Danny Messano danny at messano.net
Mon Sep 24 02:42:37 CDT 2007

I think you've spent way too much time arguing on internet discussion
boards.  This isn't about "those evil lawyers" or "big bad corporations".
This is about someone implementing a standard on the ham bands that is
encumbered by licensing.  If I owned the rights to the codec and you
violated them by developing an open source version of it, I would sue you
too, and I have sometimes been accused of being a pretty nice guy :)  

Amateur Radio is a hobby with roots in freedom and experimentation.
Licensing, freedom, and experimentation do NOT play well together, nor
should they.  I don't think anything should be allowed to exist on "the air"
on an Amateur Radio frequency that I am not free to create myself,
unencumbered.  I should also be able to extend it as much as I want, and
others should be able to do the same.


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Subject: [aprssig] Re: D-STAR video on YouTube

At 11:02 PM 9/23/2007, Danny Messano wrote:

>There's no FUD here.  The statements being made are fact.
>There is something keeping D-STAR from evolving into a "Public Domain 
>Standard"... fact is, it may as well be a CLOSED system.  If the codec 
>is proprietary, it doesn't matter if someone comes up with an open 
>source version.. Someone OWNS it.  They will flex muscle if you vilate 
>their IP,

Yes, your glass is half-empty.   Lawyers are evil.  Corporations are 
evil.  Closed development is evil.   No corporation in the history of the 
world has done something philanthropic.

My glass is half-full.

And for every "evil" corporation out there is another that has released IP
rights at a time when they perceive they have re-couped their investment or
that development has been surpassed by new technology.

And that totally ignores the fact that people who are deeply involved D-Star
may develop their own independent system similar but not based on 
AMBE.   And that might not happen if there is no D-Star to show people the

Go ahead, bash away.  How many repeaters are being converted to D-Star every
month?  How many new repeaters are coming online for D-Star every 
month?   At a time when APRS is definitely on the decline, because you guys 
are stuck on technology from 1984 and refuse to move unless there is no 
expense involved.    Everything has to be cheap and freely available.


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