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[aprssig] Email addresses in APRS

Gregory A. Carter gcarter at openaprs.net
Mon Aug 11 01:22:28 UTC 2008


The reality here is that as long as there is The Internet there will be
users advertising their email address in any and every form possible,
including APRS messaging or status packets.  I can see it quite practical to
email a user who's given their address in an APRS message packet when the
content of your reply far exceeds the useful length of a typical packet or
perhaps would be better conveyed in private.  Having that in mind, perhaps
setting a standard would be beneficial for allowing programs that view APRS
packets for Amateur Radio operators to be able to pick out the addresses yet
leave them a little more obscure to prevent blatant standard address data
mining.

Greg

NV6G
OpenAPRS.Net

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Gary <n6lrv at cox.net> wrote:

> Dear John,
> Yes I am unaware of the difference between the WWW and the internet as I'm
> one of the millions who
> consider both one and the same these days and that does little to change my
> original comment which
> by the way, was posted to the entire group vs. you alone yet you have taken
> it upon yourself to
> attack me, twist the meaning of my comments, simplify and nullify my
> position, how dare you. I
> merely asked the group why put email addresses in APRS messages at all and
> why other info wouldn't
> be preferable. I'm very disappointed in the comments I've read in various
> messages that say
> something like what you wrote in that "if I want someone to email me
> questions about my station, I
> might want to include my email address". That's a self-centered thing to
> write in my view not to
> mention a waste of limited bytes on the APRS message you send. Why would
> someone want to email you
> just because they saw your APRS station on their screen? Does it help them
> at that moment? I doubt
> it. If a traveler was looking for a talk in freq to your local hamfest and
> only saw your email
> address on the screen vs. local repeater info for assistance I know I'd
> look elsewhere for help as
> your station info is useless at the time. I think APRS messages should
> contain, first and foremost,
> local and regional info helpful to travelers so they can get the help they
> need, reach people
> locally, etc. not wait around for an email answer. Maybe someone traveling
> in the Northwest doesn't
> have cell coverage or internet access but they do have a portable APRS
> station with them, they need
> help now but the local Digi only offers an email address instead the
> details of a local two meter
> repeater that this traveler may program in and call for help on. Your
> hostility today is inexcusable
> and just because I don't agree with your position on email addresses in
> APRS messages? Clearly
> you're a self proclaimed plethora of information and feel it is your duty
> on this earth to police at
> least my opinions expressed on this list. Far be it from me to waste any
> more of my invaluable time
> with you or this topic as it does little to change things and you clearly
> have nothing better to do
> than pick a fight.
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org [mailto:
> aprssig-bounces at lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of John
> Habbinga
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:22 PM
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Email addresses in APRS
>
> You ask why you would include an email address at all?  Well, if
> someone asks me for my email address, why should I refuse.  If I want
> someone to email me questions about my station, I might want to
> include my email address.
>
> You ask why communicate via the internet?  Why not?  Aren't you
> communicating via the internet right now?
>
> You claim that in many cases there is info that can be of more
> immediate help to a traveler than an email address.  Yes, so feel free
> to transmit that type of information.  Geez, no one is claiming that
> APRS serves only to disseminate email addresses.
>
> Your question is not valid, it is not relevant and it does not broaden
> the pool of answers, it takes the thread off-topic.  You express that
> you are "concerned about this seemingly never-ending effort in amateur
> radio to connect more and more radio modes to the World Wide Web."  I
> think you mean the Internet, not the World Wide Web.  They are two
> different things.  Get on topic or start another thread.
>
> > You argue that standardizing on an email format within APRS messages will
> facilitate misuse of
> that
> > info while I ask why include an email address at all? Why put an email
> address in there anyway if
> > not to invite email which, in most cases today, is communication via the
> internet. In many cases,
> > including Bob's Dallas thread, there is info that can be of more
> immediate help to a traveler than
> > an email address. The boundaries of this thread are not yours alone to
> define so my question is
> > valid, relevant, and intended to broaden the pool of answers to this
> potential problem of spamming
> > email addresses from APRS messages.
> > Gary R.
> > N6LRV
>
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