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[aprssig] Another Bootlegger Using APRS As a Commercial AVL System ???

Wes Johnston, AI4PX wes at ai4px.com
Sun Dec 28 15:01:48 UTC 2008


What would it take to convince the 10meter bootleggers to run mic-e
packets?  Sure would make tracking _them_ down easier!

Breaker 1-9.... did ya hear that slick sounding roger beep I got?  Yours
only goes DING... my goes BRRRRRRAAAAAPPPP.

On an aside, I was pleasantly suprized to hear the folks relating grilling
Scott and Byon for selling these trackers to guns causing crime, etc.... At
least common sense is prevailing here!  And just to be clear, the legal /
illegal use of a product lies with it's owner, not with the company who
produced it.  Now I'm going to sop up the hot McDonalds coffee I just
spilled in my lap... lol.
Wes
---
It may be necessary temporarily to accept a lesser evil, but one must never
label a necessary evil as good.


On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Joseph M. Durnal
<joseph.durnal at gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't think that APRS bootlegging on 144.39 will ever be a big deal
> as long as it isn't ignored.  Preventing the packets from reaching the
> IS could be a temporary fix, but at a cost that the bootleggers would
> only be able to be seen on RF.  Then who is to say that the
> bootleggers won't set up their own receiver with UIView or something,
> and then use obnoxious paths?  As it is, APRS 144.39 bootleggers are
> the only ones that actually tell you exactly where to find them which
> is a heck of a lot easier than finding the truck driver with the 500
> watt CB using 28.085.
>
> 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R
>
>  On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Stephen - K1LNX <k1lnx at k1lnx.net> wrote:
> > The bootlegging of APRS has the potential to be an ever increasing
> > issue. One thing I have thought about is that is it possible to add a
> > simple authemtication scheme to the APRS-IS network? Like register
> > once under a verified callsign and then you are "authenticated" and
> > all of your objects/posits are posted to the stream moving forward.
> >
> > Obviously I know this could be a burden, but my fear is that more
> > companies will continue to adopt APRS as a tracking technology due to
> > cost versus a commercial system or just plain ignorance.
> >
> > 73
> > Stephen
> > K1LNX
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Charlie Gallo <Charlie at thegallos.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/27/2008 Jim Duncan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Don't they have an obligation (at least morally?) to ascertain that the
> >>> people they sell to are properly licensed? At the very least they
> SHOULD
> >>> inform their customers of the requirement for a valid amateur license
> and
> >>> potential penalties!
> >>
> >> They don't even sell a transmitter - do we make electronics Mfgs get a
> license to sell a resistor?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> 73 de KG2V
> >>
> >> For the Children - RKBA!
> >>
> >> "Blame the idiots. Think globally, but mock them locally. "
> >>  -- mwalker (walker at msgto.com) on slashdot.org
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Brown - ARS K1LNX
> > Johnson City, TN EM86
> > http://www.k1lnx.net
> >
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