[aprssig] 6.72m Propagation Network Already In Service
Ev Tupis w2ev at yahoo.comSun Jan 6 14:37:15 UTC 2008
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Jon, This is wonderful information. I had no idea that it existed. Please, forward a URL with more info on the propagation study portion of the BNSF monitoring system, would you? What are you observing as far as meteor propagation on this system? It seems to be "smack dab" in the middle of the "Meteor Scatter Band" and could be used by Bob in strategizing for his project. Ev, W2EV ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Adams <jon at jonadams.com> To: aprssig at lists.tapr.org Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:20:14 AM Subject: [aprssig] 6.72m Propagation Network Already In Service Good evening, Ev, Bob and others - Did you know that the BNSF Railway is running a nice 44.58MHz network with about 600 base stations spread over a great part of the US west of the Mississippi? It's 9600 baud, does not rely upon meteor scatter, is called "Extended Line of Sight" propagation, short packets generally, GMSK modulation. About 100-150 locomotives, most of the trackside defect detectors, most of the highway vehicles that also have ability to get up on the rail, have transceivers now as well. All the transceivers are 100W tx and the vehicle/trackside equipment antennas are either loaded 1/4 or full-size halfwave antennas. Base station antennas are coaxial dipoles high up on towers, generally 60-100'. Network is very chatty, but apparently quite efficient, with dozens of packets per minute from any one base station. While it's not exactly continuous duty, when a propagation event occurs, the number of packets per minute can easily top 100. Packet types include location packets, for base and mobile devices, network beacons, telemetry packets, control packets, etc. The network runs in a TDMA polled mode, so the field devices only talk when authorized. The reason I bring this up is that this network is already far more dense than most anything that hams could create. It's a great tool for seeing propagation in real time, and while 6-3/4m is a little longer than 6 and shorter than 10, it's probably a good indicator. If you listen on 44.58MHz FM narrow, maybe you'll hear the short bursts, especially if you're anywhere near a BNSF line. Here at my qth, I have a receiver specifically for that band and service, and have received packets from as far away as Minnesota. We're looking for hams who would be willing to add a dedicated receiver and antenna to their setups to collect this data - we have a server that then plots the current prop on Google Earth as well as web pages that provide specific statistics on the data. There are about 19 receiving sites now, concentrated in AZ and IL, with a few more in SoCal, Washington state, Colorado, Iowa, New Mexico, Wisconsin. The radios we use for reception are generally old boat-anchor Motos, including Micors, Mitreks, Maratracs, Maxtracs, some plain-vanilla scanners work fine too. All require direct discriminator output, and a sound card that has really good low-frequency performance (there's no scrambling on the data, so there can be really long sequences of zeroes). Nearly all the antennas are homebrew, either vertical dipoles, loaded quarter waves, or fullsize ground planes. While this Meteorcomm network does not rely upon meteor scatter, it does provide a fine tool for detecting potential meteor scatter events as well as other ionospheric stuff. And when the skip is in, I'm not sure how their network can deal with the onslaught of packets, but it seems to work fine. Many of us who are involved with this are hams, with a fair number who are railfans and not hams. What you get in return for participation in this network is the propagation data in digestible format. If you're interested in participating, reply to me off-list. 73 - Jon N7UV _______________________________________________ aprssig mailing list aprssig at lists.tapr.org https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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