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[aprssig] APRS Frequency info?

Chris Rose kb8uih at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jul 5 22:07:39 UTC 2008


I looked at Bob's web page with a Gateway widescreen
laptop and just had to wiggle the display back and
forth a little to get a good look at the pictures.  We
are just all amateurs and produce what we can for
others to see and use.  I am glad Bob did what he did.

Chris 
KB8UIH

--- "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2 at aol.com> wrote:

> Robert Bruninga wrote:
> 
> 
> > Good point.  Things on my APRS web pages first
> come to light as
> > fuzzy ideas.  Then a web page goes up.  THen as we
> learn and
> > refine, more and more gets added.  I agree, the
> result is a
> > ramble.  Ill try to clean it up a bit.  But it
> should be noted
> > that that page serves two purposes.
> >
> > 1) Educate all of HAM Radio, (not just APRS users)
> about the
> > importance that Frequency can have in our daily
> communications.
> > That was the original ARRL initiative to which we
> responded
> > after Katrina.  
> >
> > 2) Show people how to do it.
> >   
> 
> If you are going to refer people to this page for
> instructions on HOW TO 
> DO IT ,
> then the HOW TO DO IT paragraphs should be AT or
> NEAR THE TOP (Or at least
> a link near the top to an anchor lower down on the
> page, with something 
> like:
> 
> "Jump to Detailed Setup Instructions Lower Down On
> This Page"
> 
> 
> 
> > OK, I tried to smooth up the details of the
> settings.  But I
> > couldn't get rid of the background preceeding it,
> since I point
> > to this web page all the time for non-APRS users
> and ARRL VIP's
> > to hope they get the value of APRS in
> communicating local
> > frequency info...
> >
> >   
> >> punctuated by a series of fuzzy low-contrast, 
> >> low-res images of radio front panels.   
> >>     
> >
> > You are right, some of them were taken with a
> Kenwood VCH-1 SSTV
> > camera over a decade ago.  
> >   
> 
> AARRGH!!!!   One of the WORST imaging devices ever
> offered the public!   
> (I have two of the VC-H1s and NEVER use the supplied
> camera head. I 
> always use the NTSC monitor output of a decent
> digital camera as an 
> image source for the VC-H1 -- it improves the image
> quality of 
> transmitted images several hundred percent.)
> 
> 
> 
> > That is all I had at the time.  But
> > on the other hand, they sure load quickly!  I for
> one, prefer
> > speed over image bloat any time especially when
> all we are
> > showing is text anyway.  Kinda like the amateur
> mantra of using
> > the minimum bandwidth to communicate...  I scrunch
> 
> > All 2 MB photos by 16:1 or more before placing on
> my web pages.
> >
> >   
> 
> There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that these
> images should be 
> remotely near 2MB, "scrunched" or "unscrunched".  
> Further, they won't 
> be any larger if they are IN FOCUS with DECENT
> CONTRAST!!!  Invest 40 
> bucks in a second-hand digital camera off Craigs
> List  (I just bough a 
> two-year-old Canon A75 Powershot  for $45 that has
> zoom macrofocusing 
> capability that can fill the entire field of view
> with a SHARP image of 
> the screen of a TH-D7 at 18").  
> 
> Then twiddle the resulting images in Photoshop. 
> Jack up the contrast, 
> crop and resize from it's native multi-megapixel
> resolution to something 
> like 320x240, reduce the color depth from
> photographic high-color to 256 
> colors (you'll never notice the difference on screen
> shots or images of 
> maps) and save as a GIF image.  If you don't have
> PhotoShop, the 
> freeware IrfanView program from
> <http://irfanview.com> can perform these 
> operations just about as well.   
> 
> My webpage with the review of the Garmin Foretrex
> 201 wrist GPS shows 
> what can be done to tweak images of small LCD
> screens (the Foretrex 
> screen is only a little larger than the TH-D7s):
> 
>      <http://wa8lmf.net/Foretrex>      (None of  the
> images linked from 
> this page are larger than 38K.)
> 
> 
> > I would welcome any better photo contributions. 
> The ECHOLINK
> > and IRLP photos on the D7 need to be re-shot since
> I left out
> > the FREQUENCY on the second line....  Kinda silly,
> since that
> > was the whole point.  And I only just noticed that
> tonight!
> >
> >   
> >> A template with the exact format of this kind of
> frequency 
> >> object, along with a couple of example strings,
> needs to be 
> >> the FIRST item on the page.
> >>     
> >
> > I take your suggestions and cleaned up the
> presentation a
> > little... But still, the formats come after intro
> and
> > background, since that is the main point of this
> page to APRS
> > and non-APRS users alike.  We need to get out the
> word that the
> > concept of operating frequency is as equally an
> important
> > parameter about any station at least as important
> as his LAT and
> > LONG.
> >
> > After all, we have radios to commnicate.  And we
> have to know
> > frequency to do that... Not just put little icons
> on FINDU.
> >
> >   
> 
> This has nothing to do with effectively using page
> layout and  
> typography to make the page readable, and the
> critical information 
> easily findable.
> 
> 
> I think you need a WYSIWYG HTML editor rather than a
> simple ASCII text 
> editor so that you can more easily control page
> layouts with multiple 
> columns,  multiple fonts, etc.    A  very nice basic
>  FREEWARE  HTML 
> editor is available at:
> 
>      <http://www.nvu.com/>      
> 
> This is NOT a bloated "Web 2.0" app for creating
> pages massively loaded 
> with Flash Animation, video clips, Javascript
> popups, cascading style 
> sheets, etc.   It is a small and fast open-source
> app for Windows, Mac 
> and Linux that runs on modest hardware.   It can
> toggle between an edit 
> page that resembles MS Word, a traditional HTML code
> view, and a browser 
> preview mode as you edit.  
> 
> Think of it as a FREE diet-sized version of MS
> Frontpage.  Like 
> Frontpage, it also includes a "site manager" feature
> that lets you see 
> the connections between pages of the site, and an
> integrated FTP client 
> for uploading to the server.    It is ideal for the
> kind of relatively 
> simple, primarily    
>
text-oriented-but-with-some-formatting-and-a-few-images
>  pages needed 
> 
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