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Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re: [aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]

Amateur Radio WB8NUT duffy at wb8nut.com
Wed May 21 13:56:17 UTC 2008


That will also work fine as long as each manufacturer handles the 
messaging display the same way. Since no one has seen the Yaesu 
messaging on the VX8, we don't know if it is the same as the Kenwood at 
this time.

Duffy
www.wb8nut.com

John B. Leonard, Jr. wrote:
> So what's to guarantee that anyone using the "K" does in fact have a 
> KW of that capability?  It's common knowledge that a lot of  stations 
> sending out info are doing it simply for ego purposes, having no real 
> purpose aside that just to appear on a map to many.
>  
> Seriously, why not just forget the brand overlay entirely and make an 
> overlay to shout that a station is "message-capable"?  There must be a 
> "Q" signal that means that.  Use that. 
>  
> And then get that functionality on the APRS wish list, and, perhaps 
> one day, all radios will have that ability.  It could happen.  
> Remember, manufacturers had a dreadful record of standardization until 
> the mini-DIN came along.  Now most radios have them, with standard 
> pin-outs.
>  
> w9jbl
>  
>  
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* kc9umr at freqradio.com <mailto:kc9umr at freqradio.com>
>     *To:* aprssig at lists.tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at lists.tapr.org> ;
>     aprssig at lists.tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:56 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re:
>     [aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]
>
>     Could the value be that *SOME* radios have full featured
>     messaging, etc. whereas other radios DO NOT.... 
>
>     i.e. if i tell you i have a Kenwood, you know (presumeably) that i
>     can send and receive messages, etc., but if i have an Icom I
>     cannot?  This would make the specific radio a worthwhile note, but
>     would it be better to have a special icon for D700's, D710's,
>     VX8's etc. that have these capabilities vs. radios that do not? 
>
>     If i hook a TinyTrak to my V7A, i can run APRS... but that doesn't
>     mean I can send or receive text messages....
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From*: "John B. Leonard, Jr." <w9jbl at comcast.net>
>     *Sent*: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:05 AM
>     *To*: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
>     *Subject*: Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re:
>     [aprssig] YaesuVX-8R)]
>
>     I'll have to disagree with the whole issue of spending any time on
>     this. In
>     a hobby which prides itself on public service, there's no reason to
>     broadcast radio brands on APRS. It shouldn't be important to anybody
>     whether Joe Ham is using a KW, Alinco or Acme radio.
>
>     Also, to add any overhead to the APRS network to advertise a
>     certain brand
>     of 2 meter radio will unnecessarily burden the system.
>
>     Our biggest concern should be that everything produced under the APRS
>     concept should work the same - even UI-View (which I use
>     exclusively), even
>     though it seems that it wants to be treated differently than other
>     APRS
>     clients.
>
>     73's
>     w9jbl
>
>     > --- "Greg D." wrote:
>     >> > From: bruninga at usna.edu
>     >
>     >> > In the recent attempt to upgrade the symbol set,
>     >> we added a RADIO symbol with OVERLAYS. Using that
>     >> symbol will allow a K for Kenwood, a Y for Yeasu, an
>     >> I for Icom and A for Alinco, etc...
>     >> >
>     >> > The symbol looks kinda like a radio front panel.
>     >> >
>     >> > Of course it will take a while for all software to
>     >> add this symbol, but it has been defined and ready
>     >> for use.
>     > -----------------------------------------
>     >
>     > What is the tactical or situational-awareness value to
>     > this?
>     >
>     > Ev, W2EV
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