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Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (WasRe: [aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]

John B. Leonard, Jr. w9jbl at comcast.net
Wed May 21 14:29:57 UTC 2008


Bob and all have done a lot of work to standardize the protocol.  I can't 
see why a company would advertise an "APRS Radio" and violate that protocol. 
Also when/if the protocol changes, perhaps the radio should be "flash 
updateable".

w9jbl
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amateur Radio WB8NUT" <duffy at wb8nut.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (WasRe: 
[aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]


> That will also work fine as long as each manufacturer handles the 
> messaging display the same way. Since no one has seen the Yaesu messaging 
> on the VX8, we don't know if it is the same as the Kenwood at this time.
>
> Duffy
> www.wb8nut.com
>
> John B. Leonard, Jr. wrote:
>> So what's to guarantee that anyone using the "K" does in fact have a KW 
>> of that capability?  It's common knowledge that a lot of  stations 
>> sending out info are doing it simply for ego purposes, having no real 
>> purpose aside that just to appear on a map to many.
>>  Seriously, why not just forget the brand overlay entirely and make an 
>> overlay to shout that a station is "message-capable"?  There must be a 
>> "Q" signal that means that.  Use that. And then get that functionality on 
>> the APRS wish list, and, perhaps one day, all radios will have that 
>> ability.  It could happen.  Remember, manufacturers had a dreadful record 
>> of standardization until the mini-DIN came along.  Now most radios have 
>> them, with standard pin-outs.
>>  w9jbl
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* kc9umr at freqradio.com <mailto:kc9umr at freqradio.com>
>>     *To:* aprssig at lists.tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at lists.tapr.org> ;
>>     aprssig at lists.tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:56 AM
>>     *Subject:* Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re:
>>     [aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]
>>
>>     Could the value be that *SOME* radios have full featured
>>     messaging, etc. whereas other radios DO NOT....
>>     i.e. if i tell you i have a Kenwood, you know (presumeably) that i
>>     can send and receive messages, etc., but if i have an Icom I
>>     cannot?  This would make the specific radio a worthwhile note, but
>>     would it be better to have a special icon for D700's, D710's,
>>     VX8's etc. that have these capabilities vs. radios that do not?
>>     If i hook a TinyTrak to my V7A, i can run APRS... but that doesn't
>>     mean I can send or receive text messages....
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     *From*: "John B. Leonard, Jr." <w9jbl at comcast.net>
>>     *Sent*: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:05 AM
>>     *To*: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
>>     *Subject*: Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re:
>>     [aprssig] YaesuVX-8R)]
>>
>>     I'll have to disagree with the whole issue of spending any time on
>>     this. In
>>     a hobby which prides itself on public service, there's no reason to
>>     broadcast radio brands on APRS. It shouldn't be important to anybody
>>     whether Joe Ham is using a KW, Alinco or Acme radio.
>>
>>     Also, to add any overhead to the APRS network to advertise a
>>     certain brand
>>     of 2 meter radio will unnecessarily burden the system.
>>
>>     Our biggest concern should be that everything produced under the APRS
>>     concept should work the same - even UI-View (which I use
>>     exclusively), even
>>     though it seems that it wants to be treated differently than other
>>     APRS
>>     clients.
>>
>>     73's
>>     w9jbl
>>
>>     > --- "Greg D." wrote:
>>     >> > From: bruninga at usna.edu
>>     >
>>     >> > In the recent attempt to upgrade the symbol set,
>>     >> we added a RADIO symbol with OVERLAYS. Using that
>>     >> symbol will allow a K for Kenwood, a Y for Yeasu, an
>>     >> I for Icom and A for Alinco, etc...
>>     >> >
>>     >> > The symbol looks kinda like a radio front panel.
>>     >> >
>>     >> > Of course it will take a while for all software to
>>     >> add this symbol, but it has been defined and ready
>>     >> for use.
>>     > -----------------------------------------
>>     >
>>     > What is the tactical or situational-awareness value to
>>     > this?
>>     >
>>     > Ev, W2EV
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
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