[aprssig] Beacon rate feedback
Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.eduMon Nov 24 21:18:03 UTC 2008
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You are correct that beacon rates are discussed with religious fervor. Here are a few more comments from my perspective.. >> Before we get into a Ford vs Chevy war... > > In this case (driving up the CA coast) > I really don't see any advantage to > proportional pathing. Since I view APRS as a network of souls trying to communicate in the wilderness, (and not so much a map tracking thing) I like the 1 minute direct rate of proportional pathing so that I can easily detect a fellow soul when we get within Voice Alert range. At a 120 MPH net crossing speed and a typical 5 mile simplex comm range, this only gives 2 hits to possibly make contact before we pass each other. This is also why I tend towards the fixed repetition rate of porportional pathing, because it gives consistent updates and gives me an idea about when to expect his next packet too. I think of communications in an APRS network as being communictions in the time domain with regular updates from all participants. Hence the regular intervals of porportional pathing. Smart Beaconing is a variable rate system for trackers and those who think more in the map-domain and like to TX high rates while maneuvering. But then on the open highway, you might miss them if their rate drops too low or if they are stuck in traffic, or if they have pulled over. > I'm trying to come up with a scheme for the > Tracker2... that'll allow flexible but reasonably > simple configuration of multiple paths, > multiple rates, and multiple transmit > frequencies... In designing such flexibility, please consider all the wrong ways each method can be used, and the damage to others if a user sets it one way, and then droves off to do something else. Some trackers are set-and-forgotten and if they are one-way, the ownewr is not aware of the havoc he is making on the network. Please consider having the protection of the network from QRM as being the overall top-level design driver, then some flexibilty can be added below that, but with safeguards to overrule poor settings. That's why I like proportional pathing. It provides all the flexibilty in multiple paths and multiple rates all the time without having to change a thing. It works locally at a high rate, but lower rates at a distance with one-fifth the QRM potential of a typical 2 hop path. But the most important value is that it does not need to be changed by the operator to go from DX to local use. And by the same token, it does not provide too much QRM if taken from local use to traveling. IE, the user never has to change it in most cases. It can be a nice set-and-forget path. So it really boils down to whether one thinks of APRS as humans in the time domain (my preference) or as tracking devices in a map domain (which I believe tends to get others to think away from the full potential of APRS as a service to ham radio operators)... Sorry for rambling, but I did think it worthwhile to point out the different schools of thought about APRS in the TIME versus SPATIAL domains. For what its worth... Bob, WB4APR
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