[aprssig] APRS CQ - prefix stripped off by server

Steve Noskowicz noskosteve at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 23 22:36:37 CDT 2008

RE:  That is why you need 3 (actuallly 4)CQ's... 

Yikes!   Yea...hit and run.   I think Bob musta' chuckled here.

   Though Bob explained it, if this still confuses you, remember that the message *to* the server has a *prefix* consisting of  "CQ" followed by the group name.  Pete describes the CQ as one of two possible server COMMANDS.  The other COMMAND is "U" for unregister/unjoin.
   The group-name in today's case, happens to also be CQ.  So the message prefix, which the server truncates, is "CQ CQ".  
Therefore "CQ CQ CQ CQ message" gets forwarded as "CQ CQ message".  Thus, you know it is a CQ to the CQ group.  

Knowing this, you can customize it.  You loose the fact that is it s CQ, but in some cases this may be ok:   
"CQ JOTA TO: ALL SCOUTS message..." > > "TO: ALL SCOUTS message..."

Just a thought...

Still not certain when and to whom those "# messages sent to nnn" messages go to.  Looking at findu, I think when someone joins they get it.
  It's not clear when the "0 messages sent to nnnn"  gets sent.  Also dup messages can make it to the server, but are not shown on Findu - these can also cause the server to send the "too soon" message.

As Dad used to say "74.  One better than anyone else", Steve, K9DCI

> 1) The first is a required Keyword to trigger the server
> 2) The second is the name of the "group" you are
> calling
> 3) The third and forth are DUPLICATES of the first two so
> that the receipent sees WHY the message was sent.  Because
> Pete's CQSRVR strips off the original CQ and GROUP so
> the message arrives without any CLUE why you got it.
> I argued and argued with Pete that the intent of the CQSRVR
> idea was to deliver the CQ XXXX .... message INTACT, so that
> the recepient saw exactly what the sender sent and so that
> he could tell what GROUP he was in.
> That is why you have to type "CQ JOTA CQ JOTA
> comment" because Pete's implementation strips off
> the original "CQ JOTA".  Yet you want it to arrive
> as a CQ JOTA message... 
> So I gave up arguing, and just recommend that everyone type
> everything twice to avoid recepients receiving CQ XXXXXX
> messages out of the blue but with the CQ XXXXXX stripped off
> so they make no sense.
> >This is starting to make sense.  
> >  The server only tells you how many 
> > have "logged-in" to the server. 
> Yes.
> > Logged in is in the sense that they "Sent 
> > a message" to the server and the same group.  
> > These messages... go direct to all stations 
> > previously logged-in.  So, ..
> Everyone sees every message of everyone that logs in AFTER
> he does.
> >Have I got it?
> Yes
> > I saw the 4 CQ messages also and had a QSO...
> > I'm wondering what the message "Sending too
> > soon to CQ means.
> You can only send one every 30 minutes.  (to keep from
> flooding the world...
> Bob, Wb4APR


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