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[aprssig] Doubling APRS messaging in ham radio overnight

Kenton A. Hoover shibumi at mail.marchordie.org
Mon Jan 26 22:46:49 UTC 2009

Is beaconing no longer permissable? It was always in the eye of the  

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Kenton A. Hoover
shibumi at mail.marchordie.org

On Jan 26, 2009, at 14:36, Duane Whittingham <n9ssn at arrl.net> wrote:

> I wonder if some consider it one way so its broadcasting?
> If it can be defined as informative like a bulletin then maybe?
> Duane - N9SSN
> At 09:59 AM 1/26/2009, you wrote:
> On 1/26/2009, "Earl Needham" <needhame1 at plateautel.net wrote:
> Ben Jackson wrote:
>  Older, working pagers are a dime a dozen on the used market and  
> there are
>  some people who have refitted them to work on Amateur bands[2].  
> With the
>  fact that there (quite literally) buckets full of working pagers at
>  HamFests, why not have a "messagegate" that takes APRS messages to
>  stations and translates them to a message destined for a POCSAG
>  compatible pager. There were certain KAM TNCs that could encode  
>  natively
>     Years ago I had a pager converted to receive on 146.76, our local
> repeater.  We had a new controller that would send paging tones to  
> open
> it up.  Sadly, after about 3 uses, the "old fogeys" decided it was
> illegal.  We had quite the discussion, and one of them finally called
> the FCC monitoring office in Powder Springs, Ga, and simply asked
> them,"Paging isn't legal on amateur frequencies, is it?"
> This *is* a concern and I'm curious as to how the FCC looks at paging
> for amateur stations by amateur stations. The only real "paging
> network" I've seen is based in Germany. Nothing on this side of the
> Atlantic.
> I'm sure there are people smarter then me on this list. Any opinions  
> on
> this? Part 97 is murky at best.
>     If you try this, be prepared for other "old fogeys" to step in and
> try to take the fun our of amateur radio.
> Fogeys don't need to be old :). Every project needs to be championed  
> by
> someone who can tilt at windmills. The next step was to call the FCC  
> and
> the ARRL to get their interpretation of the tomes. Paging in this  
> sense
> may be something that is not supported under Part 97, which is part of
> the reason I haven't tried to really push this (other reasons being
> time and money). I just decided to toss it out there in this thread
> partially to get input from other people regarding it.
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