[aprssig] Is WXSVR Permanently Defunct???

Steve Dimse steve at dimse.com
Tue Jul 28 18:08:56 CDT 2009

Pet Peeve Alert....

I really get mad when people say things like this. A computer program  
is the personal property of the author. He has, and should have,  
complete freedom to use it to provide a service, sell it, make it open  
source, or throw it in the trash.

Suppose you spend years building a beautiful sailboat, and once it is  
done you spend more years giving underprivileged kids sailing lessons.  
At some point you stop doing it. Maybe it is a health reason, maybe  
one of the parents yelled at you, maybe you can't afford the upkeep,  
or maybe you just don't like to sail any more. Does that mean you have  
some sort of obligation to allow others to take over the boat? Does it  
mean you have to explain your decision to stop doing something  
altruistic? Of course not.

Running a service for hams is a frustrating experience, to say the  
least. Maybe ten percent of users will take the time to thank you or  
to donate when you need it. Eighty-eight percent of hams use the  
service and appreciate it, but don't give a particular thought to the  
effort and expense behind it. The final two percent are the ones ruin  
it. You cannot please them, and they feel like you have some sort of  
obligation to bend to their wishes and needs. Dave Anderson, who was  
one of the brightest and most generous APRS sysops was driven out of  
APRS by that two percent. There are times when I get fed up, and I try  
to focus on the the 98%. One day it may not be enough...

Dale deserves nothing but the profuse thanks of all the ham operators  
who have benefited by his efforts over the years. He has no  
obligations to APRS, we have an obligation to him!

Steve K4HG

On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Phil - AD6NH wrote:

> It's really too bad the wheel needs to be reinvented.  I have  
> appreciated the services that WXSVR has given us over the years.   
> While I understand the time, money, and effort involved with  
> maintaining a feature such as WXSVR, it sure would be nice for the  
> folks on the development side to offer the platform for someone else  
> to host if they feel they no longer want to support it.  Was the  
> code so proprietary that it could not be transferred to another  
> server?  I'm sure there are dozens of us if not more who would be  
> more than willing to host WXSVR.
> I mean no disrespect to any software developers, but if you're going  
> to develop an application for Ham Radio, and software and systems  
> are designed around that application, then I think an effort should  
> be made to allow the service to continue after you are through.  At  
> any rate, what else can we do?
> 73
> Phil - AD6NH
> www.aprsca.net
> www.aprs2.net
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Michael Francoeur <mfranc at myfairpoint.net 
> > wrote:
> One of the WXSVR features that I'll miss is the finger command to  
> get the
> full NWS message.  I was doing this for our state eoc and would like  
> to be
> able to get the full NWS message from any APRS NWS trigger.
> Mike/N1NAF
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On  
> Behalf
> Of Curt, WE7U
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Is WXSVR Permanently Defunct???
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Stephen H. Smith wrote:
> > Currently, I see that AE5PL is injecting APRS point objects and  
> simple
> > area objects for weather events into the APRS IS, but not the  
> control
> codes
> > to "light up" the colored transparent "shape file"  overlays.
> > Is there any plan to resume the WXSVR shape file service?
> The alert zone problem is being worked on.  Depending on your client
> they may be working now.  Additional clients may start lighting up
> zones during the next day or so.  Thank you Pete!
> --
> Curt, WE7U.                         <http://www.eskimo.com/~archer>
>    APRS:  Where it's at!                    <http://www.xastir.org>
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