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[aprssig] KC2TUA/KC2UFG Ballon Down?

Quinton Jansen jansenq at myjansen.com
Mon Mar 23 00:14:17 UTC 2009


It's good to see people having fun with their hobby again.

It would be nice to see the design and build of the balloon.  If anybody 
knows of a website detailing it...

Quinton/VE7SOG

Steve Noskowicz said the following on 03/22/2009 05:03 PM:
> Don't know why that track URL crashed...
> Try again:
> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KC2TUA-8&degree=16
>
> Also, If the Sat view is close, it looks quite near to that shoreline.
>
> The twitter blog is interesting.  With all that, you'd think SOMEONE would have known better.
>
> 73, Steve, K9DCI
>
>
>   
>> Looks like it's down, just a few minutes ago. 
>> All-in-all, it's a nice track.  AND they have quite a
>> ride to pick it up...
>>
>> http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/track.cgi?call=KC2TUA-8&degree=16
>>
>>
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>> --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Mike Miller <mike.kc9doa at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> From: Mike Miller <mike.kc9doa at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [aprssig] KC2TUA/KC2UFG Ballon QRM
>>> To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at tapr.org>
>>> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 4:17 PM
>>> I'm sure the interference to your
>>> repeater was unintentional and 
>>> just a poor choice of frequency. Both the ARRL and
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> Upper New 
>>> York Repeater Council band plans show 146.400 as
>>>       
>> simplex.
>>     
>>> The 
>>> ARRL does note that it may be used as a repeater input
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> some 
>>> areas. If the repeater had a tone protected input,
>>>       
>> you
>>     
>>> probably 
>>> would have never known they were there.
>>>
>>> Mike kc9doa
>>>
>>> On 22 Mar 2009 at 13:12, Ron wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> OK the balloon is out of my range now and
>>>>         
>> approaching
>>     
>>> Nfld.
>>>       
>>>> I respectfully disagree that the effect of these
>>>>         
>>> transmissions
>>>       
>>>> was either minimal or short-lived.
>>>>
>>>> From 30,000 ft the APRS signal was being heard
>>>>         
>> by
>>     
>>> nodes over 300
>>>       
>>>> miles away, which could be about 25
>>>>         
>>> digipeaters...although some
>>>       
>>>> would hear their neighbors transmission and not
>>>>         
>>> repeat. Not to
>>>       
>>>> mention every home station that has WIDE1-1 set
>>>>         
>> for
>>     
>>> digipeating.
>>>       
>>>> This has about 10 times more effect than a
>>>>         
>> mobile
>>     
>>> driving by at
>>>       
>>>> 60mhp.
>>>>
>>>> In this case the duration of the pass was also
>>>>         
>>> significant. From
>>>       
>>>> approx 08:20z to 19:30z it was heard in my area.
>>>>
>>>> While the effect to our APRS network was not
>>>>         
>> severe,
>>     
>>> the 147.000-
>>>       
>>>> repeater took a significant beating for about 10
>>>>         
>> hours
>>     
>>> thanks to
>>>       
>>>> KC2UFG transmitting on an inappropriate
>>>>         
>> frequency.
>>     
>>>> I am very disappointed that people planning such
>>>>         
>>> extended balloon
>>>       
>>>> expeditions do not take these things into
>>>>         
>>> consideration.
>>>       
>>>> It has been discussed on this group a number of
>>>>         
>> times
>>     
>>> and I
>>>       
>>>> though there was an understanding of proper
>>>>         
>> beacon
>>     
>>> rates and
>>>       
>>>> paths. Especially the consideration of such
>>>>         
>> rates
>>     
>>> while aloft
>>>       
>>>> (>1000ft), eg: direct paths only and
>>>>         
>> reasonable
>>     
>>> beacon rates
>>>       
>>>> based on coverage/average speed.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> VE1AIC Ron
>>>>         
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