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ne line of text "Message text"=2C followed by a message with the /EX termin= ator. What she got was: "Message received Message text**************************************************** This message was sent using a remote device which *** *** has limited capacity.=20 When replying use plain *** *** text and keep the message as short as possible. *************************" So=2C "Message text" is indeed in there=2C but the subject is deleted since= apparently that has no equivalent in a SMS text message. The "Message rec= eived" part is from the D7 sending an automatic acknowledgment message (whi= ch I probably should turn off for this)=2C and then there's all the extra f= luff of the message length warning. I wonder if it would be possible to add a command to the gateway (ST instea= d of SP=2C perhaps) for sending to Text message recipients=2C that would le= ave out the extra warning text (since they can't send much back either)? O= r maybe end with /ET instead of /EX=2C if the gateway doesn't want to remem= ber how the message started? Would the "Winlink system administrator" be a good contact person for this = suggestion? Also=2C I tried sending a short message back to my D7 from a regular email = program=2C and it also worked=2C but again the message length problem was v= ery limiting. I can see the whole string on my Xastir gateway=2C but when = it gets to the radio=2C I see the subject line and the sender's email addre= ss=2C but the text is truncated. I thought the messages were sent in piece= s=2C so that you would see the whole thing... Did I not retrieve it correc= tly? (sent "r1" to the gateway from the D7). Or=2C is the D7 not configur= ed right? Thanks! Greg KO6TH From: ko6th_greg at hotmail.com To: bwebster at wirelessmapping.com=3B aprssig at tapr.org Date: Thu=2C 14 May 2009 21:17:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email -> Cell phone Text message problem Hi Brian=2C Ah=2C this one looks promising. Plain text=2C multiple lines (Thank you!)= =2C and I get to set both the subject and text contents. The only issue mi= ght be the message length=2C due to the long hunk of text warning you about= the limited reply capability. (Ironic=2C no?). I've got an email out to my daughter to warn her it's coming... I'll let y= ou know. Greg KO6TH From: bwebster at wirelessmapping.com To: aprssig at tapr.org Date: Wed=2C 13 May 2009 08:08:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email -> Cell phone Text message problem See=20 if you have the problem sending messages via the APRS-Winlink Gateway. I li= ke=20 the fact that you can assign an alias for a long email in APRSLink which=20 certainly shortens the keystrokes required from an APRS device to key=20 in.... =20 http://www.winlink.org/aprslink =20 Thank You=2C Brian N2KGC =20 -----Original=20 Message----- From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org=20 [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org]On Behalf Of Greg D. Sent:=20 Wednesday=2C May 13=2C 2009 1:42 AM To:=20 aprssig at tapr.org Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email -> Cell phone=20 Text message problem Well=2C you still see them over here. I guess the Cell=20 companies have trained us to lower expectations. The first message I=20 sent (via email-2) did display all the junk (no message text)=2C but then= later=20 ones from the same service did the reboot thing. That's why I'm thinking= =20 the bit bucket needs to be emptied=2C or something similar. I think I'll= =20 let her clear it all out and try the original email service one last time= =2C=20 unless there's a 3rd service out there to try=2C or some way to configure= =20 (format) what it delivers. But=2C yeah=2C even without the messages she=20 occasionally complains of it turning itself off every once in a while. =20 Voice quality is a challenge on any mobile phone=2C another thing we've b= een=20 "trained" on. Me=2C well=2C I don't have a cell phone... If I'm in=20 the office=2C leave a message and I'll get back to you. If I'm in the ca= r=2C=20 try the Auburn repeater :-). Greg KO6TH > Date:=20 Tue=2C 12 May 2009 13:35:50 +0100 > From: dave at uk-ar.co.uk > To:=20 aprssig at tapr.org > Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email -> Cell phone=20 Text message problem >=20 > The Razr is not exactly known for its=20 reliability=2C sadly. >=20 > They were popular over here briefly for=20 the big screen and the style of > the package=2C but quickly fell out of=20 favour due to many "operational" > issues that P'd off too many users=2C=20 on all networks. I haven't seen > one in use now in the UK=2C for over a=20 year. I guess they are all in > landfill now=2C or at the back of the=20 kitchen cupboard. The one my > partner had=2C used to drop call's or reset=20 for no reason=2C never did get > to the bottom of that=2C I think she broke=20 it in half out of frustration > in the end. >=20 > 73. >=20 =20 > Dave G0WBX (Owner of an older Nokia 6310i. It just keeps=20 working...) >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ >=20 =20 > From: Greg D. > Sent: 12 May 2009 06:39 > To:=20 aprssig at tapr.org > Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email -> Cell phone=20 Text message problem >=20 >=20 > Hi Pete=2C >=20 > Yeah=2C=20 that's what I figured. Email-2 was the service I used=2C because I >=20 appreciate how it can use aliases for email addresses. >=20 > I=20 tried again using the original email service (no "-2")=2C because it >=20 formats things differently=2C with "Message from <call sign>" in=20 the > subject=2C and the message within the traditional message text area.=20 She > got a message=2C but this time the phone rebooted itself and left=20 an > error=2C something about not being able to download the message. I=20 didn't > try to pursue it at this time. Perhaps it's simply out of=20 space=2C or > maybe the links and/or size is causing an internal crash.=20 The phone is > a Motorola Razr=2C with T-Mobile service. >=20 >=20 So=2C this is going to take some gateway work... >=20 > Any=20 takers? >=20 > Greg KO6TH >=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ > aprssig mailing=20 list > aprssig at tapr.org >=20 https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig =20 Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.=20 Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut= orial_WhatsNew1_052009= --_110b3181-8b82-42b3-a131-7c5f8b38ea31_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px=3B padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt=3B font-family:Verdana } </style> </head> <body class=3D'hmmessage'> Ha=2C Success! =3B It can use some tweeking on both sides (the D7 and t= he gateway)=2C but the message was received=2C and the phone did NOT reboot= .<br><br>From the D7 I sent a message with "message subject" as the subject= =2C and one line of text "Message text"=2C followed by a message with the /= EX terminator. =3B What she got was:<br><br>"Message received Message text**************************************************** This message was sent using a remote device which *** *** has limited capacity. =3B When replying use plain *** *** text and keep the message as short as possible. *************************"<br><br>So=2C "Message text" is indeed = in there=2C but the subject is deleted since apparently that has no equival= ent in a SMS text message. =3B The "Message received" part is from the = D7 sending an automatic acknowledgment message (which I probably should tur= n off for this)=2C and then there's all the extra fluff of the message leng= th warning.<br><br>I wonder if it would be possible to add a command to the= gateway (ST instead of SP=2C perhaps) for sending to Text message recipien= ts=2C that would leave out the extra warning text (since they can't send mu= ch back either)? =3B Or maybe end with /ET instead of /EX=2C if the gat= eway doesn't want to remember how the message started?<br><br>Would the "Wi= nlink system administrator" be a good contact person for this suggestion?<b= r><br>Also=2C I tried sending a short message back to my D7 from a regular = email program=2C and it also worked=2C but again the message length problem= was very limiting. =3B I can see the whole string on my Xastir gateway= =2C but when it gets to the radio=2C I see the subject line and the sender'= s email address=2C but the text is truncated. =3B I thought the message= s were sent in pieces=2C so that you would see the whole thing... =3B D= id I not retrieve it correctly? =3B (sent "r1" to the gateway from the = D7). =3B Or=2C is the D7 not configured right?<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Gr= eg =3B KO6TH<br><br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: ko6th_greg at hotmai= l.com<br>To: bwebster at wirelessmapping.com=3B aprssig at tapr.org<br>Date: Thu= =2C 14 May 2009 21:17:21 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email ->=3B= Cell phone Text message problem<br><br> <style> .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px=3B} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt=3Bfont-family:Verdana=3B} </style> Hi Brian=2C<br><br>Ah=2C this one looks promising. =3B Plain text=2C mu= ltiple lines (Thank you!)=2C and I get to set both the subject and text con= tents. =3B The only issue might be the message length=2C due to the lon= g hunk of text warning you about the limited reply capability. =3B (Iro= nic=2C no?).<br><br>I've got an email out to my daughter to warn her it's c= oming... =3B I'll let you know.<br><br>Greg =3B KO6TH<br><br><br><h= r id=3D"EC_stopSpelling">From: bwebster at wirelessmapping.com<br>To: aprssig@= tapr.org<br>Date: Wed=2C 13 May 2009 08:08:26 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [aprssi= g] APRS Email ->=3B Cell phone Text message problem<br><br> <style> .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding-right:0px=3Bpadding-left:0px=3Bpadding-bottom:0px=3Bpadding-top:0p= x=3B} .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt=3Bfont-family:Verdana=3B} </style> <div><span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-13052009"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face= =3D"Tahoma" size=3D"3">See=20 if you have the problem sending messages via the APRS-Winlink Gateway. I li= ke=20 the fact that you can assign an alias for a long email in APRSLink which=20 certainly shortens the keystrokes required from an APRS device to key=20 in....</font></span></div> <div><span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-13052009"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face= =3D"Tahoma" size=3D"3"></font></span> =3B</div> <div><span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-13052009"><font color=3D"#0000ff" face= =3D"Tahoma" size=3D"3"><a href=3D"http://www.winlink.org/aprslink">http://w= ww.winlink.org/aprslink</a></font></span></div> <div> =3B</div> <div><font face=3D"Tahoma"><br><br>Thank You=2C</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Tahoma">Brian =3B<span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-1305= 2009">N2KGC</span></font></div> <div><span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-13052009"></span><font face=3D"Tahoma">= <span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-13052009"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"3"= > =3B</font></span></font></div> <div><font face=3D"Tahoma"><span class=3D"EC_EC_251360612-13052009"> = =3B</span>-----Original=20 Message-----<br><b>From:</b> aprssig-bounces at tapr.org=20 [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg D.<br><b>Sent:</b= >=20 Wednesday=2C May 13=2C 2009 1:42 AM<br><b>To:</b>=20 aprssig at tapr.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] APRS Email ->=3B Cell p= hone=20 Text message problem<br><br></font></div> <blockquote>Well=2C you still see them over here. =3B I guess the Cell= =20 companies have trained us to lower expectations.<br><br>The first message= I=20 sent (via email-2) did display all the junk (no message text)=2C but then= later=20 ones from the same service did the reboot thing. =3B That's why I'm t= hinking=20 the bit bucket needs to be emptied=2C or something similar. =3B I thi= nk I'll=20 let her clear it all out and try the original email service one last time= =2C=20 unless there's a 3rd service out there to try=2C or some way to configure= =20 (format) what it delivers.<br><br>But=2C yeah=2C even without the message= s she=20 occasionally complains of it turning itself off every once in a while.&nb= sp=3B=20 Voice quality is a challenge on any mobile phone=2C another thing we've b= een=20 "trained" on.<br><br>Me=2C well=2C I don't have a cell phone... =3B I= f I'm in=20 the office=2C leave a message and I'll get back to you. =3B If I'm in= the car=2C=20 try the Auburn repeater :-).<br><br>Greg =3B KO6TH<br><br><br>>=3B = Date:=20 Tue=2C 12 May 2009 13:35:50 +0100<br>>=3B From: dave at uk-ar.co.uk<br>>= =3B To:=20 aprssig at tapr.org<br>>=3B Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email ->=3B Cell= phone=20 Text message problem<br>>=3B <br>>=3B The Razr is not exactly known f= or its=20 reliability=2C sadly.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B They were popular over here br= iefly for=20 the big screen and the style of<br>>=3B the package=2C but quickly fell= out of=20 favour due to many "operational"<br>>=3B issues that P'd off too many u= sers=2C=20 on all networks. I haven't seen<br>>=3B one in use now in the UK=2C for= over a=20 year. I guess they are all in<br>>=3B landfill now=2C or at the back of= the=20 kitchen cupboard. The one my<br>>=3B partner had=2C used to drop call's= or reset=20 for no reason=2C never did get<br>>=3B to the bottom of that=2C I think= she broke=20 it in half out of frustration<br>>=3B in the end.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B = 73.<br>>=3B=20 <br>>=3B Dave G0WBX (Owner of an older Nokia 6310i. It just keeps=20 working...)<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B _____________________________= ___<br>>=3B=20 <br>>=3B From: Greg D.<br>>=3B Sent: 12 May 2009 06:39<br>>=3B To:= =20 aprssig at tapr.org<br>>=3B Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Email ->=3B Cell= phone=20 Text message problem<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B Hi Pete=2C<br>>=3B= <br>>=3B Yeah=2C=20 that's what I figured. Email-2 was the service I used=2C because I<br>>= =3B=20 appreciate how it can use aliases for email addresses.<br>>=3B <br>>= =3B I=20 tried again using the original email service (no "-2")=2C because it<br>&= gt=3B=20 formats things differently=2C with "Message from <=3Bcall sign>=3B" i= n=20 the<br>>=3B subject=2C and the message within the traditional message t= ext area.=20 She<br>>=3B got a message=2C but this time the phone rebooted itself an= d left=20 an<br>>=3B error=2C something about not being able to download the mess= age. I=20 didn't<br>>=3B try to pursue it at this time. Perhaps it's simply out o= f=20 space=2C or<br>>=3B maybe the links and/or size is causing an internal = crash.=20 The phone is<br>>=3B a Motorola Razr=2C with T-Mobile service.<br>>= =3B <br>>=3B=20 So=2C this is going to take some gateway work...<br>>=3B <br>>=3B Any= =20 takers?<br>>=3B <br>>=3B Greg KO6TH<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B=20 _______________________________________________<br>>=3B aprssig mailing= =20 list<br>>=3B aprssig at tapr.org<br>>=3B=20 https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig<br><br> <hr> Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. <a href=3D"http://windowslive.co= m/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009">Check it out.</a> </blo= ckquote><br><hr>Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. <a = href=3D"http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_W= L_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009">See how.</a><br /><hr />Hotmail=AE has a ne= w way to see what's up with your friends. <a href=3D'http://windowslive.com= /Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009= ' target=3D'_new'>Check it out.</a></body> </html>= --_110b3181-8b82-42b3-a131-7c5f8b38ea31_--
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