[aprssig] Aprx v2 beta, now with Viscous Digipeater (can't work)
Robert Bruninga bruninga at usna.eduThu Oct 22 17:55:18 UTC 2009
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> To implement this on the T2 shouldn't > require more than one extra bit of > storage per entry.... > I'm tempted to go try it out now... Please don't until this "visious" digipeating has been fully characterized. I can see NO easy SOLUTION to the problem of the digi-not-hearing some if not most of all packets on the air from two or more adjacent nearly equal digi's due to collisions, and therefore, its delayed repeating will not solve the problem, but simply MULTIPLY the number of dupes and QRM. I admit that the problem IS solvable by one technique. That is designing AND placement of the ANTENNA such that *EVERY* surrounding wide-area-digipeater is guaranteed to arrive with at least 13 dB or more of DIFFERENCE in signal level to every other digipeater in range. This DOES solve the problem by making sure each packet can be heard, but ONLY if done correctly and with critical attention to RF detail. My experience is that this WILL NEVER BE DONE satisfactorally in practice in the field and updated EVERY time ANY surrounding digi changes ANYTHIGN in its antenna, feed-line, power, or nearby structures.. When this critical alignment is NOT done or not done perfectly and not maintained with EVERY surrounding change in anything, then the result of the "visious" digipeating is a MULTIPLICATION of QRM and dupes which is bad for the efficiency of the network. I simply cannot see it work in practice with so many systems being installed willy-nilly plug-n-play, install-and-forget that we see today. Another set-and-forget way to make it work is to have a separate BEAM and separate packet RECEIVER pointed at each surrounding wide-area digi, so that every packet is received without FM collision. But this is a huge expense and effort for a small area FILL-IN.. The FINAL and ULTIMATE solution has always been for APRS to go to a DUAL-FREQUENCY system which separates the USER UPLINK from the DIGI OUTPUTS and the local traffic frome the regional traffic. But this too is an extrordinary jump... And requires all new dual-band-dual-receive mobiles and users.. Bob, WB4APR
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