[aprssig] Modem tones, the KPC3+, and Bell 202
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf2 at aol.comWed Aug 11 08:24:55 UTC 2010
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On 8/10/2010 11:03 PM, Phil N6TCT wrote: > I've always thought that AX.25 AFSK modem tones were 1200 and 2200 Hz, > i.e., "Bell 202." Tonight I was playing with a Kantronics KPC3+ and was > surprised to see the AFSK frequencies at 1300 and 2100 Hz. After > scratching my head and checking my equipment I finally thought to check > google, which pointed me at the KPC3+ spec sheet > (http://www.kantronics.com/products/kpc3.html) which says that the KPC3+ > is a V.23 modem, not a Bell 202 modem. The V.23 spec per > http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-V.23-198811-I/en says that V.23 is 1300 Hz > and 2100 Hz, sure enough. > > My question for the group: does this matter? The practical part of me > thinks, "Nah, it can't; the KPC3+ is sort of the gold standard for > packet, so this must be just fine." But the theoretical DSP/comms > engineer part of me says, "Why on earth would anyone build in a 100 Hz > 'error' (i.e., offset) into things if you didn't need to? That's gotta > hurt, not help." > > Thoughts? > > Stated differently, if you had a choice between using a KPC3+ and > something else (i.e., a true Bell 202 modem) for APRS packet, would you > choose "something else?" > > Thanks! > You can't just use a 202 (or even a V.23) modem as a replacement for a KPC3+. A TNC is far more than just a modem. It's a "PAD" (Packet assembler/disassembler) that buffers a block of data to send, and then adds sending and destination callsigns, routing information, error-detection checksums, etc to the payload data. A regular "dumb" 202 modem would require a considerable amount of software on the host computer to emulate the functions of a TNC. [The closest to this would be a TNC running in KISS mode, where the TNC does function as a simple AFSK modem, with all the packet "heavy lifting" done in software on the attached computer. ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com EchoLink Node: WA8LMF or 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band] Skype: WA8LMF Home Page: http://wa8lmf.net NEW! *** HF APRS over PSK63 *** http://wa8lmf.net/APRS_PSK63/index.htm Universal HF/VHF/UHF Antenna Mounting System http://wa8lmf.net/mobile/UniversalAntMountSystem.htm "APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths
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