[aprssig] Hamfest and Local info

Steve Noskowicz noskosteve at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 16 09:40:08 CDT 2010

The sys op programs the Digi to put out an object located at the appropriate lat/lon.  This requires either remote programming capability or a trip to the digi (as I understand it)

73, Steve, K9DCI USN (Vet) MOT (Ret) Ham (Yet)

--- On Wed, 6/16/10, john paterson jr <jpaterjr at gmail.com> wrote:

From: john paterson jr <jpaterjr at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info
To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at tapr.org>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:00 AM

Sorry, I meant to say located away from the hamfest site.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:

Regarding getting those HAMFEST objects out!

> Why not have someone... write a script
> ... that queries the ARRL Hamfest database

> and injects this data onto the APRS-IS
> by some sort of identifier that local
> IGATES can push out.

Because that is just one symptom of the problem.  The problem is that if no one is even interested enough in APRS in an area to push a HFEST object, then that means local meetings, events and ham activites are also being ignored.

THAT is the problem, that no one in an area is investing in INFO Serving the local area...

> I don't know if it is possible, but I
> always find it hard to get the enduser
> interaction you are requesting.

ANother way to push this issue, might be to query the ARRL Hamfest calendar, then have a script to search APRS-IS for the HFEST objet and if missing, find the nearest 10 APRS (2-way) stations and then send them an automated message asking them why the hell they aren't putting out the local hamfest object...

It could also query QRZ or whatever to send them an Email too!


>Anyways, just some thoughts I have been considering.  I know it is not an
>instant solution.  I am working on the same thing for IRLP which is a set of
>scripts allowing users on my repeater to query for the closest hamfest in
>Michigan to my repeater.  It then uses Cpestral to play back the closes ARRL
>listed hamfest on any given date.
>> From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
>> Reply-To: <bruninga at usna.edu>, TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:41:01 -0400
>> To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List' <aprssig at tapr.org>
>> Subject: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info
>> Are you doing your job for APRS in your area?
>> I was driving up I-81 in VA, and it was midnight.  But I noticed
>> on the front panel of the radio, HFEST-13 pop up.  I was going
>> right past it in about 30 minutes, and tomorrow was the 13th and
>> I had to stop for the night anyway, so I stopped and next
>> morning got to do a hamfest!
>> Without APRS, I would have missed that opportunity.  And I did
>> not even have to bother the talk-in, because I could see exactly
>> where it was on my GPS and just tell my GPS to go there!
>> That is why we ask that EVERY hamfest organization (YOU!) to do
>> These things for APRS!
>> 1) Begin posting an HFEST.... object IN ADVANCE showing the
>> hamfest.
>> 2) Use the standard format HFEST-ddx
>> 3) Where "dd" is the day of the month,
>> 4) and "x" is a unique identifier if there are others on your
>> same day
>> 5) Inlcude FFF.FFFMHz as the first 10 bytes of text for the
>> talk-in freq.
>> THen also
>> 6) Make sure that the TALK in operators have an APRS map in
>> front of them so that they  can SEE at least the APRS mobiles.
>> This benefits the mobiles, and lets the operator learn about
>> APRS, and as he finds out how valuable it is to him, he tells
>> others.  Then the club learns the value of APRS...
>> YOU need to make sure YOUR group is doing this.
>> To see all the hamgest obejects, just do a wildcard search on
>> HFEST* if someone else has the same date, then change your final
>> "x" byte to be unique.
>> For example map.findu.com/hfest* curently shows about...
>> Hummh... Exactly one, and it is in Puerto Rico.  SURELY THERE
>> This just shows us how many APRS operators are not doing their
>> job of making APRS useful and practical to other users. Come on
>> guys.. Sheesh...
>> If we do not put out USEFUL INFROMATION ON APRS, then there is
>> See www.aprs.org/localinfo.html
>> While I am ranting, is YOUR DIGI in your area putting out the
>> receommended frequency objects for travelers?  What about the
>> Echolink or IRLP object.???  Your digi will NEVER do it unless
>> YOU take some initiative and make sure it is getting done or get
>> things going.
>> Frustrated..
>> Bob, Wb4APR
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