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[aprssig] Hamfest and Local info (Welcome beacons)

Dave Baxter dave at uk-ar.co.uk
Fri Jun 18 12:54:41 UTC 2010


Yes, and when traveling in Europe, ones phone is forever going off as it
changes from network to network (roaming) getting welcome messages.
It's a right royal pain!  And it cost's too!

Nice idea for APRS though, if it could be made to work, reliably.   I
suspect it'd need some smart software somewhere to keep tabs on what was
sent, to who and when, so you don't annoy the luckless traveler with
information overload.   Especially D7 users.

Cheers.

Dave G0WBX.
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu] 
> Sent: 17 June 2010 14:33
> To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info (Welcome beacons)
> 
> > Another idea.... many years ago around 1994 when I first 
> got an analog 
> > cellphone, when I drove through Columbia SC my phone rang....
> > it was bellsouth... welcoming me...
> 
> > What if the digis were smart enough to see a mobile entering a 
> > boundary for the first time (in a week or a month) and send 
> a message 
> > to that station letting them know about local events.
> 
> They do!  Or at least that is what I have been asking people 
> to set up for 6 years now since 2004!
> 
> 1) The BOUNDARY is established as when you "get in range" of that digi
> 2) The INFO you get are the FOUR available BTEXTS or OBJECTS 
> available for programming in each digi. (Some digis can only do 3)..
>   A - the digi's own info and additional info
>   B - The locally recommended APRS or travelers voice repeater
>   C - The Echolink or other reecommended frequency or IRLP
>   D - a third frequency or whatever.
> 
> IT'S IN THERE!  We just have too many people blind to the 
> true value of APRS in ham radio and too lazy to realize that 
> it is OUR network.  And it will only provide the desired 
> service if we as individuals provide it and properly set up 
> the digis, and then also originate objects for local special events.
> 
> > As for letting us know about club events or meetings, Scott's open 
> > tracker's scripting can do this although I wish it could be 
> indexed to 
> > a given day...  Yes, the digi's should publish the local 2m 
> net within 
> > the beacon, but it sure would be nice in addition to have 
> the net as 
> > an object every 10 minutes a few hours before the net... esp if it 
> > caused the radio to beep as above.
> 
> Yes!  I have a web page that describes that desired application.
> I think someone did write an add-on for Uiview that will let 
> you enter fixed schedules and it will do the alerts.  It 
> might be called net-meeting, or netscheduler, or something like that?
>  
> Bob, WB4APR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> > As for letting us know about club events or meetings, Scott's open 
> > tracker's scripting can do this although I wish it could be 
> indexed to 
> > a given day... but it seems most of the work is done.  Yes, 
> the digi's 
> > should publish the local 2m net within the beacon, but it 
> sure would 
> > be nice in addition to have the net as an object every 10 minutes a 
> > few hours before the net... esp if it caused the radio to beep as 
> > above.
> >  
> > Wes
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:05, Bob Bruninga
> <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 	> For a regularly occurring event,
> > 	> such as a club meeting, would you
> > 	> need to put up and take down the
> > 	> object each month?
> > 	
> > 	
> > 	Regularly occuring NETS and club meeting dates should 
> already be 
> > included in every local area if the local digi is setup 
> according to 
> > the New-N paradigm and
> www.aprs.org/localinfo.html.
> > 	
> > 	EVERY digi is supposed to be putting out the "locally 
> recommended 
> > APRS or Traveler voice frequency object already.
> > The format for that object includes both weekly NET times 
> and MONTHLY 
> > Meeting times.  So anyone passing through the area will 
> never be more 
> > than 10 minutes from an update on this info (When he is in range of 
> > THAT digi).
> > 	
> > 	This has been the proper settings of all digis since
> 2004.
> > 	
> > 	EVERYONE needs to check their local MAP and if their 
> digi is not 
> > putting out this object and its attendant info, then -they- need to 
> > take action to see that it gets done.
> > These objects MUST be in the DIGI TNC or otherwise 
> originated at the 
> > DIGI site in order to have no impact on the channel
> load.
> > 	
> > 	Three can be up to 3 such objects PER digi.
> > 	
> > 	Please see www.aprs.org/localinfo.html
> > 	
> > 	Bob, Wb4APR
> > 	
> > 
> > 
> > 	Or, would it be ok to create an
> > 	>   object at the meeting site and have a status text
> > 	>   with the time/date formula (2nd Friday of the month)
> > 	>   and location (library at 350 Nevada St.) and just
> > 	>   leave it there?
> > 	>
> > 	>   Greg  KO6TH
> > 	>
> > 	>     ------------------------------------------------
> > 	>
> > 	>   Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:56:31 -0700
> > 	>   From: ml41782 at yahoo.com
> > 	>   To: jpaterjr at gmail.com; aprssig at tapr.org
> > 	>   Subject: Re: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info
> > 	>
> > 	>   John,
> > 	>
> > 	>   The location of the event and the DIGI dont have to
> > 	>   coexist.
> > 	>
> > 	>   You only need to create an object with the
> > 	>   information and coordinates of the event.
> > 	>
> > 	>   This can be done as a standalone radio & TNC or go
> > 	>   to the remote location and add the information a
> > 	>   week ahead and take it off the week after.
> > 	>   Mike K4MQF
> > 	>
> > 	>
> > 	>     ------------------------------------------------
> > 	>
> > 	>   From: john paterson jr <jpaterjr at gmail.com>
> > 	>   To: ml41782 <ml41782 at yahoo.com>; TAPR APRS Mailing
> > 	>   List <aprssig at tapr.org>
> > 	>   Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 9:59:11 AM
> > 	>   Subject: Re: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info
> > 	>   How would you solve the problem where the club aprs
> > 	>   station was located several miles away from the
> > 	>   field day site? The transmitted lat - lon would not
> > 	>   lead folks to the correct site.
> > 	>
> > 	>   John KC5LAA
> > 	>
> > 	>   On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:13 AM, ml41782
> > 	>   <ml41782 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 	>
> > 	>     YOu can't tell me that there aren't at least 2 or
> > 	>     more APRS users in each club. I agree with Bob. It
> > 	>     should be up to them to put forth the effort to
> > 	>     get that information up on the air and announce up
> > 	>     coming events.
> > 	>
> > 	>     My 2 cents
> > 	>
> > 	>     Mike K4MQF
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> > --
> > Wes
> > ---
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