[aprssig] Clubs, FRS and Ham Response teams

Dr. John w3ate at earthlink.net
Tue Aug 30 09:03:11 CDT 2011

Good morning Bob,
It's been a long time since we talked on the phone and you started me into 
the APRS crave.
Since then, when I was down in Ft. Lauderdale I started the Club Gold Coast 
ARC interest in APRS and filled the gap from Boca to North Miami. We built a 
digi station 140 ft. on a building in Ft. Lauderdale, and gives great 
I have now moved Trying to be retired, but that did nit happen. I am now the 
Chief of Ecomms for Pocahontas Search & Rescue, and deigning the system for 
the entire county which is larger then Road Island and Delaware placed 
Now for the issue.
I just bought a TH-D700, but the info I just received is for a 710.
The There are some issues that I just don't understand and need some major 
I have a cabin on Droop mountain 3963 ft, great VHF site and for APRS. I', 
am also introducing APRS to the new Search and Rescue teams.
There are some menus that I'm not understanding.
If I have a phone number and could call at your convince, or just email the 
major questions.
there was issues that when I read the manual and proceeded was different 
then what I saw in a email from you.
Hoping all going well , and that the hurricane did not do major damage in 
Annapolis, where if I remember is your QTH.
Also, just to add to the FRS, we now plan to issue FRS to all the search 
team members. Then a high power handheld to the team leader which he can 
communicate back to the Command Center. This now lower the cost of local 
comms. A major savings.
We are also addressing the TH-D72 handheld to each team leader as when they 
connect back to the Command Communication center we will have an accurate 
location, as to each team.

Dr. John Gregory, W3ATE/8

From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:38 AM
To: "'KB5ILY - Travis W. Burton'" <kb5ily at arrl.net>; "'TAPR APRS Mailing 
List'" <aprssig at tapr.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Clubs, FRS and Ham Response teams

>> Bob, could you not use a cat-5 and have mic and ptt also ?
> Yes, but you would probably get a lot of noise on the Xmiter.  I'd pre-amp
> the mic or take audio from somewhere at LINE level and then attenuate it 
> to
> Mic level at the radio.  This minimizes noise.  And since PTT is the same 
> as
> Mic (combined) on 1 wire, you don't need separate PTT.  Just DC ground the
> mic lead.
> However, this is probably considered illegal since the FCC rules (I think)
> say the FRS radios can only be used with "type approved" accessories.
> Bob
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, Bob Bruninga  wrote:
>>> Thought 1/2 watt and no external antennas???
>>> Have the rules changed??
>> No.  For monitoring in my office, I have a stock FRS radio inside a 2" 
>> PVC
> pipe on the roof.  I feed it 6 volts up and bring down speaker audio on a 
> 4
> conductor phone line type wiring to my desk about 200' away.
>> Stays in the rules.  Stock radio, stock antenna.  No rules about where 
>> you
> put the speaker.  THough I think there is a rule that it can only be used
> with type-approved accessories which probably does include plugging into 
> the
> external speaker jack, though extending the RX capability does not in any
> way extend its TX range which is the rule's main concern.
>> If I need to respond to a call, I take a portable and walk over to stand
> by the window to TX.
>> Bob, WB4APR
>>>   Ron
>>>   --- On Sun, 8/28/11, Bob Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
>>>   wrote:
>>>     From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
>>>     Subject: [aprssig] Clubs, FRS and Ham Response teams
>>>     To: aprssig at tapr.org
>>>     Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 2:15 PM
>>>     Cheap Radios for Emergency  Preparedness!
>>>     We bought 10 pairs of FRS radios amounting to about
>>>     $14 each and made them available to our entire school
>>>     ham radio club.  The idea being to make sure that all
>>>     boots-on-the-ground could contact each other and the
>>>     local campus EOC during the Hurricane.
>>>     Even the Hams found them very handy for short range
>>>     contact so that their HT could remain on the EOC,
>>>     AREA/RACES and other vital channels, leaving the FRS
>>>     channel available for logistics and coordination
>>>     within the club and on scene.
>>>     This sure keeps a lot of simplex traffic off of the
>>>     HAM channels that are already busy with longer
>>>     distance traffic.
>>>     The FRS radios are 1 watt UHF with 22 channels, PL,
>>>     CTCSS and DCS  (including CTCSS Scan!) and
>>>     rechargeable batteries and charger for $28 a pair.
>>>     We consider them expendible so they are the ones we
>>>     use in the rain, over the water, and into the mud.
>>>     Plus the unlicensed newcomers to the club can use
>>>     them to stay in touch with our Cadre of communicators
>>>     ntil they get thir licenses.
>>>     If you are Radioactive, dont overlook these excellent
>>>     HT's.  PS. I measured several on a Sig gen and ALL
>>>     are identical 0.2 uV or so sensitive as good as any
>>>     ham radio.
>>>     Bob, WB4APR
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