[aprssig] Kindly dealing with annoying behavior

J T w0jrt at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 24 11:17:08 CDT 2012

It also appears that this home/fixed station is transmitting with a path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1, bringing up any fill-in digis that may be in the area.  When contacting him it might also be worth suggesting that the path be just WIDE2-1.  More info available at http://info.aprs.net/index.php?title=Paths

-Jerome, W0JRT

--- On Tue, 4/24/12, John Goerzen <jgoerzen at complete.org> wrote:

From: John Goerzen <jgoerzen at complete.org>
Subject: [aprssig] Kindly dealing with annoying behavior
To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at tapr.org>
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 10:52 AM


    Hi folks,


    Over at http://bit.ly/IOP667 you can see some raw packets.  (Note: I
    will disable that redirect in a few days; my point is not to "name
    names" here, but to get some advice.)


    There are a few things happening there:


      Roughly every 10 minutes, 24/7 every day, sending a message to
      Same thing, also roughly every 10 minutes, sending a message
        to BLN1
      Not necessarily visible in this list, but also it is sending a
        "Welcome to [cityname]" message to anyone that sends them a
        message.  Or possibly anyone that comes in range?  I'm not
      All of the above is happening on RF.

    The first two items are the ones that bug me.  They pop up with an
    audible alert on a lot of APRS devices and software, including my
    TH-D72A and Xastir.  I also see evidence of people that are confused
    by it, thinking the message was sent specifically to them.  (Replies
    back to the station sending the BLNs saying "OK" or "no thanks" or
    something - which then causes them to get "Welcome...")


    I would like to kindly help the person running this do so in a more
    ham-friendly manner -- perhaps redirecting what is some enthusiasm
    into a better path.  Does anyone here have feedback on the best way
    to go about doing that, without coming off in a way that will make
    the person defensive and dig in their heels?  I do not know the
    email address for the person, incidentally, and am not sure if I
    could get onto any repeater that the person also uses.


    If the person needs configuration help with the software, where is a
    good place to send them?  According to aprs.fi, the software is
    APRSIS32 version 08.  I am a Linux person and although I am quite
    familiar with the entire AX.25 stack on Linux, I have never used it
    on Windows at all, and as the person is about an hour's drive away
    would probably be giving suggestions over the air or phone - so if
    there is an APRSIS32 resource somewhere I could point them at,
    that'd be great.


    On an unrelated note, I also noticed a huge volume of APRS traffic
    on RF in the local area today.  There appears to be a cell phone
    running APRSDroid dropping packets onto APRS-IS every 18s, and
    somebody is gating them onto RF putting WIDE2-2 on the via path.  It
    is not entirely clear to me what station is doing that.  I have a
    couple of candidates and have dropped a friendly email to them.


    Thank you,






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