[aprssig] Mic-E and non ham aprs use
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf2 at aol.comThu Jun 7 17:51:09 UTC 2012
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On 6/7/2012 1:08 PM, Andre wrote: > besides being ham I'm also communication volunteer for the dutch red cross > and my region is looking into assets tracking, currently google earth is used > but this is manual so I figured APRS could play a good roll in that especialy > as it is bidirectional. > The need is not a constant update of every station as posts only rarely move > so only a position burst after a transmition is more then enough like it was > done with the original Mic-E trough repeaters, also the frequenties and > radios are limited so it is likely that data bursts will have to go trough > the voice channel. > So the question is what trackers there are that still have the original Mic-E > function of appending the data burst after the transmition and wich ones are > capable of 9k6? The TinyTrack III and Tigertronics TigerTrack TM-1 can both do this burst on unkey, as can the Kenwood D700, TH-D7, D710 and TH-D72 APRS radios with built-in TNCs. You enter the Kenwood APRS menu and by change their beacon mode from "AUTO" to "PTT". The standalone trackers can only do 1200 baud. The Kenwood radios with their built-in TNCs can also effortlessly do 9600 as well. The 9600-baud bursts-on-unkey are almost un-noticeable to the users -- the 9600-baud data stream sounds almost like white noise and blends into the receiver squelch crash that follows it. The 1200-baud bursts are quite noticeable to the user. The traditional approach, if doing voice operation through a repeater is to attach a TNC, configured as a digipeater, to the repeater receive audio. When it hears packet CARRIER DETECT, it mutes the repeater retransmit audio briefly. The transmit side of the TNC keys up a separate transmitter at the repeater site that transmits on the usual APRS frequency (144.800 in your case??). The external trackers have to be able to monitor the state of the radio's microphone PTT line to trigger the burst-on-unkey. In the case of the TinyTrack, the device must be in SERIES with the mic PTT line; i.e. the TT has separate MIC PTT-in (that monitors the state of the MIC button) and TX PTT-out (that actually keys the radio) pins. (For this type of Mic-E operation, I have a TinyTrack packaged in a small metal box with a female mic jack on one end, a male mic plug on a 15 cm cable (to go to the radio) coming out the other end, and a DB-9 male connector (to mate with a serial GPS) coming out the side. The unit is powered by the 8 VDC present on one of the conductors from the radio mic jack. I was able to power a very-low-power GPS plugged into the box from the same 8 VDC source. You unplug the existing mic from the radio, plug it into the jack on the box, and then plug the box into the radio's mic jack.) The TigerTrack has a single tri-state I/O pin that bridges the mic PTT line in parallel. Normally it presents a high-Z CMOS-type input as it monitors the state of the PTT line. When it sees the PTT line go low (mic PTT button pushed) and then return to the high state (mic button released), the single pin changes function and becomes an active-LO output that shorts the PTT line to ground to key after the voice transmission. I.e it's edge-triggered when it sees a LO-to-HI transition on the mic PTT line. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1200 is easy to interface - basically just parallel the microphone and tracker TX audio at the radio mic jack. For 9600, you need direct DC-coupled access to the transmitter's FM modulator. This means cutting into the radio somehow, unless the radio has the 6-pin mini-DIN "data" or "packet" jack --AND-- configuration or menu support for 9600 baud mode. The DIN connector has two receive outputs: One is normal de-emphasized RX audio for 1200-baud operation. The other is a direct DC-coupled connection to the receiver discriminator that supports 9600-baud receive. However on TRANSMIT, the DIN jack has only ONE connection. The radio must provide an explicit jumper or configuration menu option for switching this single pin's function from audio input for the 1200 & 2200 Hz audio tones used for 1200 baud to the direct TTL logic-level data stream used for 9600-baud operation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com Skype: WA8LMF Home Page: http://wa8lmf.net High-Performance Software-Only Packet TNC http://wa8lmf.net/miscinfo/UZ7HO-Soundmodem-Install-Ver-0.44-Beta.exe High Quality Calibrated Static Maps for Any APRS App http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/PM9_StaticMap_Export.htm Vista & Win7 Install Issues for UI-View and Precision Mapping http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/UIview_Notes.htm#VistaWin7 "APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.tapr.org/pipermail/aprssig/attachments/20120607/ac2be316/attachment.htm>
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