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[aprssig] APRS Calling

Joe Della Barba joe at dellabarba.com
Mon Oct 22 23:33:25 UTC 2012


What would be GREAT is a blue-tooth and/or wifi enabled radio and an Iphone
app that interfaced with it. Older Iphones are under $100 now and no need
for cell phone service to use them on wifi/bluetooth. 


Joe Della Barba
joe at dellabarba.com

-----Original Message-----
From: rbc at rbcarleton.com [mailto:rbc at rbcarleton.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 6:33 PM
To: joe at dellabarba.com; aprssig at tapr.org
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Calling

There's something to be said about that. With my VX-8R, I can speak to or
text my ham friends, see if they are around (beacons) and check the weather
(APRS weather stations). I can see broadcasts from other hams, aka
bulletins. All of this is with no infrastructure beyond the APRS nodes
themselves. All we need now is for the manufactures to start getting more
adventurous about the packaging and user interfaces. I'd love to see an APRS
device with a slider or touch screen form factor.

Best,

			--Bruce

"Joe Della Barba" <joe at dellabarba.com> wrote:

> Eventually we'll recreate the cell phone!
> Speaking of which, OpenAPRS seems to work pretty well on my iPhone :)
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
> joe at dellabarba.com
>
> 73 de N3HGB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On 
> Behalf Of Robert Bruninga
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 5:21 PM
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List; Andrew P.
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Calling
>
> John,
>
> The proposal to Kenwood and Yaesu is to use the same format for the 
> FREQ-IN-MESSAGE format as in the STATION or OBJECT formats.  No reason 
> to re-invent the wheel.  No, it is not a conversational message in 
> human form, but someone who receives it can cleary see all he needs.
>
> Message from someone..... QSY 147.105MHz T141 +600 ... Joe
>
> Means to call Jo on that freq, tone and offset.  All we do to make it 
> a message is to p ut "QSY " in front of it.  Im doing this from 
> memeory, but somewhere I have a spec that nails it down...
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On 
> Behalf Of John Gorkos
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:04 PM
> To: Andrew P.; aprssig at tapr.org
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Calling
>
> The message sent to the originating station looks something like this:
> String.format("CALL %s on %3.3f MHz T%-3s %s node %d", bestTarget, 
> freq, tone, type,
>             nodeId);
>
>
> Or, CALL W1XYZ on 146.820 Mhz T141.3 Echolink node 12345 So, assuming 
> it's a standard EchoLink node, you would usually use the standard
"#node-number"
> format.
> If you're using a "closed" system that requires an access code (like 
> my local IRLP node), you're pretty much SOL unless you know the codes.
>
>
> On 10/22/12 11:53 AM, "Andrew P." <andrewemt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Just out of curiosity, what would make the Echolink/IRLP/AllLink 
> >nodes actually connect to each other, too? Even if the the two 
> >end-point radios did QSY to the locally appropriate frequencies, 
> >etc., what makes those two repeaters talk to each other? Or would one 
> >of the radio operators have to tone-command the linked repeater to bring
up the link?
> >
> >Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO
> >------Original Message------
> >From: John Gorkos
> >To: aprssig at tapr.org
> >Sent: Oct 22, 2012 8:46 AM
> >Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Calling
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 10/21/12 4:29 PM, "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>The FREQ-QSY Format is already there.  The radios will do the 
> >>one-button QSY, and it will all work, just as you have suggested.
> >
> >Actually, this is where things fall apart.  The radios will not 
> >recognize a FREQ object to QSY to in a message, which is critical to 
> >the whole "One button tune" concept.  This is where AVRS currently 
> >falls
> down. The
> >process should be:   N1ABC sends an APRS message to AVRS with the
> callsign
> >of the person he wants to have a voice contact with (W1XYZ).  AVRS 
> >finds that person (who has to be running an APRS system) and finds 
> >the closest echolink/allstar/irlp nodes to both N1ABC and W1XYZ.  
> >AVRS then sends a message to W1XYZ with the QSY information, and a 
> >note saying N1ABC is looking to talk to you.  W1XYZs radio ACKs that 
> >message bck to AVRS, and then AVRS sends a message back to N1ABC with 
> >QSY information and the node number of the node that W1XYZ is now 
> >listening to.  In the perfect world, the two users would hit the 
> >"TUNE" button, and the radio would auto-QSY
> to
> >that frequency.  Unfortunately, no radio on the market parses QSY 
> >data from MESSAGES, so the system falls down right there.  The users 
> >need to manually change frequencies, offsets, and set up the tone 
> >squelch for the internet link frequency.  Hence, AVRS is about as 
> >useful as a screen door on a submarine.  The system is still up and 
> >running, and get occasional hits, but there's too much manual 
> >diddling to make it as effective as D-STAR or DMR.
> >
> >John Gorkos
> >AB0OO
> >
> >
> >
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