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[aprssig] Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR

John Gorkos jgorkos at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 13:30:56 UTC 2012


A periodically updated (5-10 minutes) xml file on a public or semi-public
url that contains information in either of the following formats:
IRLP format:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<nodelist timestamp="09/17/2012 08:15">
  <node>
    <nodeid>1000</nodeid>
    <call>VE7RHS</call>
    <lat>49.26973</lat>
    <long>-123.24992</long>
    <freq>145.2700</freq>
    <offset>-600.0000</offset>
    <ctcss>100.0</ctcss>
    <status>IDLE</status>
    <avrs>O</avrs>
  </node>
</nodelist>

Echolink format:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<stationlist timestamp="09/17/2012 13:24">
 <station>
  <call>2D0IOM-L</call>
  <location>In Conference MB7IOM-L</location>
  <node>9265</node>
  <lat>54.066700</lat>
  <lon>-4.656830</lon>
  <freq>434.475</freq>
  <pl>110</pl>
  <power>4</power>
  <haat>10</haat>
  <gain>3</gain>
  <directivity>0</directivity>
  <status>C</status>
  <status_comment>=EL-CONF at 1423</status_comment>
  <last_update>09/17/2012 13:24</last_update>
  <dblocation>Castletown, Isle of Man</dblocation>
 </station>
</stationlist>

I.e. I need callsign, node number, lat/lon of node, RF characteristics
(freq/offset/tone), and status (connected, listening, down, etc)
Given that data I can poll it, update a local DB, map the nodes, and make
AllStar part of the AVRS protocol.

John Gorkos

From:  Jim Duuuude <telesistant at hotmail.com>
Date:  Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:26 PM
To:  <bruninga at usna.edu>, <aprssig at tapr.org>
Cc:  John Gorkos <jgorkos at gmail.com>
Subject:  RE: Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR

I really dont have time to spend reading all of this, but if you can quickly
tell me what you need,
I bet we can make it happen

Jim WB6NIL

> From: bruninga at usna.edu
> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:03:33 -0400
> Subject: Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR
> To: aprssig at tapr.org
> CC: telesistant at hotmail.com; jgorkos at gmail.com
> 
> Jim Duuude is the author of Allstar and was being progressive on
> integrating it with APRS and AVRS.  I lost all email and cannot retrace
> the details, but I bet he would do whatever needed to help AVRS promote
> all Allstar nodes on APRS for global connectivity both APRS texting and
> Voice.  Bob, WB4APR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aprssig-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces at tapr.org] On Behalf
> Of John Gorkos
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:28 AM
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] AVRS Issues (was Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 99, Issue
> 11)
> 
> Couldn't have asked the question any better myself.  I've worked with the
> Echolink and IRLP managers to create an XML file that is generated
> periodically on their respective servers, which I pull every 5 minutes or
> so, parse, and then update my internal DB.  If such a file was available
> for WIRES or AllStar, I'd happily include it in AVRS and make the nodes
> available on the node map (currently http://www.aprs-alert.net/nodes.html
> )
> 
> John Gorkos
> 
> 
> On 9/15/12 8:52 AM, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <ldeffenb at homeside.to>
> wrote:
> 
> >Got a URL that provides current status, node IDs, and coordinates in a
> >machine-readable format?
> >
> >Lynn (D) - K4JERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
> >
> >On 9/15/2012 8:16 AM, Bradley Haney wrote:
> >> Any chance on including  ALLstar link  nodes>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 14, 2012, at 3:59 PM, John Gorkos <jgorkos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please give me some "for instances" of what you are expecting versus
> >>>what
> >>> you are seeing.
> >>> There has been some instability around the script that updates
> echolink
> >>> node status the last week or so, which might have contributed to
> >>>weirdness.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/14/12 4:54 PM, "Eduardo Gomez López" <hk3pqi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi everybody, I am working with AVRS and the most time it's working
> >>>> very well but sometimes the system doesn't found some stations that
> >>>> are alive in APRS and are in coverage of closer echolink. Why is
> >>>> happens with? There is any bad in the system? Than you for your time.
> >>>> 73
> >>>>
> >>>> HK3PQI-10 Igate
> >>>> HK3PQI-R echolink node
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Eduardo Gómez L.
> >>>> Editor conceptual de entretenimiento
> >>>> Caracol Televisión
> >>>>
> >>>> El 14/09/2012, a las 7:01 a.m., "aprssig-request at tapr.org"
> >>>> <aprssig-request at tapr.org> escribió:
> >>>>
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> >>>>> than "Re: Contents of aprssig digest..."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   1. Latest Garmins and Gtrans cables (Alex Carver)
> >>>>>   2. Chasing NWS Balloons with APRS (Robert Bruninga)
> >>>>>   3. Re: Latest Garmins and Gtrans cables (Bob Burns W9RXR)
> >>>>>   4. Re: Latest Garmins and Gtrans cables (Scott Miller)
> >>>>>   5. Is FireNet Down? (Stephen H. Smith)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 1
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>>> From: Alex Carver <kf4lvz at yahoo.com>
> >>>>> Subject: [aprssig] Latest Garmins and Gtrans cables
> >>>>> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>
> >>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>    <1347510249.38613.YahooMailNeo at web125403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone used some of the latest Garmins (such as the 3450 and
> >>>>>other
> >>>>> 3000 series) nuvi receivers with the Gtrans cable and their radio??
> >>>>>I am
> >>>>> not concerned about the stations being plotted on the GPS receiver's
> >>>>> screen, I just want to make sure the GPS receiver can send data out
> >>>>>to
> >>>>> the radio by the cable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course the latest receivers are using micro-type-B USB?
> connectors
> >>>>> which means the Gtrans cable would have to be modified if the
> >>>>>receiver
> >>>>> could use the Gtrans cable otherwise.
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> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 2
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 20:15:14 -0400
> >>>>> From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu>
> >>>>> Subject: [aprssig] Chasing NWS Balloons with APRS
> >>>>> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>
> >>>>> Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> >>>>> Message-ID: <218845a2bd9300e8b3109050155748a5 at mail.gmail.com>
> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Although there are a few APRS type Balloon launches every few months
> >>>>>to
> >>>>> serve as educational tools and short-duration small-satellite
> >>>>> simulations,
> >>>>> there is often not one available when you happen to need to show
> some
> >>>>> students a class.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, a Ham in Brazil has written a sound-card decoder for the DAILY
> >>>>> National Weather Serice balloons that then takes the balloon data
> >>>>>(the
> >>>>> fancy ones with GPS) and converts the downlink into APRS format on
> >>>>>the
> >>>>> ground and then you can feed that into any APRS system or the global
> >>>>> APRS
> >>>>> internet feed and track these balloons just as if they were APRS
> >>>>> balloons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since they are throw-aways by the NWS, they are fun to go chase and
> >>>>>try
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> find.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The ham just told me about this, and I encouraged him to package it
> >>>>>up,
> >>>>> since it has excellent educational value.  When he has it all
> >>>>>together
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> posted on line, Ill let everyont know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This sounds like more fun..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob, Wb4APR
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 3
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:52:12 -0400
> >>>>> From: Bob Burns W9RXR <w9rxr_ at rlburns.net>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Latest Garmins and Gtrans cables
> >>>>> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>
> >>>>> Message-ID: <50528f1d.a82a320a.5995.7196 at mx.google.com>
> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 12:24 AM 9/13/2012, Alex Carver wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Has anyone used some of the latest Garmins (such as the 3450 and
> >>>>>> other 3000 series) nuvi receivers with the Gtrans cable and their
> >>>>>> radio?
> >>>>> Yes...sorta. I have a Garmin nuvi 1450 which was a 2011 model, I
> >>>>> believe. I've used it with a GTRANS2 cable from Argent Data which
> >>>>> provides NMEA0183 data over RS-232 via a DB-9 connector. Note,
> that's
> >>>>> GTRANS2. It's not listed in the Argent Data store, but Scott can
> >>>>> provide it on request. The newer nuvis get their power through the
> >>>>> mini-USB connector, so the GTRANS2 has a pigtail for 12VDC power.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 4
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 21:36:33 -0700
> >>>>> From: Scott Miller <scott at opentrac.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Latest Garmins and Gtrans cables
> >>>>> To: Alex Carver <kf4lvz at yahoo.com>, TAPR APRS Mailing List
> >>>>>    <aprssig at tapr.org>
> >>>>> Message-ID: <5052B451.6060402 at opentrac.org>
> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Current information is here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.argentdata.com/support/fmi.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The 2xx5 series should work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/12/2012 9:24 PM, Alex Carver wrote:
> >>>>>> Has anyone used some of the latest Garmins (such as the 3450 and
> >>>>>>other
> >>>>>> 3000 series) nuvi receivers with the Gtrans cable and their radio?
> >>>>>>I
> >>>>>> am
> >>>>>> not concerned about the stations being plotted on the GPS
> receiver's
> >>>>>> screen, I just want to make sure the GPS receiver can send data out
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>> the radio by the cable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course the latest receivers are using micro-type-B USB
> >>>>>>connectors
> >>>>>> which means the Gtrans cable would have to be modified if the
> >>>>>>receiver
> >>>>>> could use the Gtrans cable otherwise.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> aprssig mailing list
> >>>>>> aprssig at tapr.org
> >>>>>> https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Message: 5
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:35:24 -0400
> >>>>> From: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2 at aol.com>
> >>>>> Subject: [aprssig] Is FireNet Down?
> >>>>> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org>
> >>>>> Message-ID: <5052D02C.7020501 at aol.com>
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