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[aprssig] Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR

John Gorkos jgorkos at gmail.com
Mon Sep 17 21:03:18 UTC 2012


I think that would assume a higher degree of integration than currently
exists.  Since, by their nature, IRLP, EchoLink, and Allstar nodes have
internet connections, it should follow that they should be able to inject
their location/status into APRS-IS.
The more I think about it, the more do-able that sounds.  Unfortunately, I
don't know the source-code status of IRLP, and EchoLink is a dog's
breakfast unless you're running the Windows version, which I don't think
is open-sourced at all.  All-star is based on asterisk, so THAT'S doable.
I really, REALLY wish people could see a slightly bigger picture than "I
don't want people making any money off MY idea" when it comes to releasing
source code.  APRS would be 10 years farther along if we had the source to
WinAPRS, or UIView, enough people with coding experience drift in and out
that someone would have picked it up and run with it.

I think you're right in the sense that a proper message format should be
designed that allows for self-reporting of internet gateways.  Once the
message format is in place, it's just a matter of getting software
developers onboard with the reporting.  Having a central repository with
all of that info is still important, but the way it GETS that info would
be more integrated.

John Gorkos

On 9/17/12 4:37 PM, "Andrew P." <andrewemt at hotmail.com> wrote:

>Perhaps a new APRS message could be defined specifically to beacon such
>gateways with the relevant parameters (most of which are in the standard
>position message anyway). Then we wouldn't need a back-door URL to get
>the data; AVRS could just use a type-filtered feed to get all the gateway
>beacons (regardless of which net they are on).
>
>Just my $.02.
>
>Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO
>------Original Message------
>From: Bill Vodall
>To: aprssig at tapr.org
>Sent: Sep 17, 2012 1:49 PM
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] Automatic Voice RFelay System (AVRS) and ALLSTAR
>
>
>> I.e. I need callsign, node number, lat/lon of node, RF characteristics
>> (freq/offset/tone), and status (connected, listening, down, etc)
>> Given that data I can poll it, update a local DB, map the nodes, and
>>make
>> AllStar part of the AVRS protocol.
>
>Will this info be generally available on the APRS-IS so we can easily
>bring it to the RF domain without doing Internet magic...   (Yes - I
>know APRS-IS == Internet but there is a subtle difference...)
>
>73
>Bill - WA7NWP
>
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