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[aprssig] QRU feature request and LOCALINFO (repeaters)

Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) ldeffenb at homeside.to
Sat Sep 22 16:04:12 UTC 2012


I didn't mean to say that the repeater object wasn't using too long of a 
path, I was pointing out that your radio (I believe) had information 
available that you did not peruse before attempting to use the repeater 
in question.  Even with a no-hop or specific digipeater hop, it's quite 
realistic to receive repeater objects that you cannot access from your 
receiving location, especially if the object is being transmitted by a 
very high digipeater and the repeater is on the opposite side of the 
coverage area.

I'm not saying that was the situation in your case, just saying that a 
no-hop transmission may still deliver objects that the receiver needs to 
explore before assuming that they're accessible from his/her current 
location.

In context, the request you extracted my PS from was dealing with a 
request to include distance information in the humanly-readable comment 
of a QRU response, NOT directly related to local information repeater 
objects.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 9/22/2012 11:32 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> PS.  If this is in response to Bob's posting over on the aprssig,
>> all he should have needed to do was note the distance on his
>> D72 screen to the repeater object instead of assuming that
>> because he heard the object, he could hit the repeater...
> Ah, here we disagree.  Internet jockies simply do not understand the
> realities of providing useful CONCISE information to mobile and
> handheld operators that have a TINY windows on the APRS world and a
> few buttons and not big PC screens and are sharing only a single 1200
> baud channel.
>
> The concept of LOCALINFO is that only what is LOCALLY RELEVANT is
> pushed to the users screen.
>
> Yes I DO ASSUME that if I receive the DATA it is LOCAL AND RELEVANT.
> Else it is SPAM and needs fixing and has no place on a shared 1200
> baud overloaded channel.
>
> There are over 900 PAGES (screens) of information available on the D72
> APRS radio for example,  A user should not have to search through
> those 900 pages of SPAM to find out what local VOICE repeater covers
> WHERE HE IS STANDING.
>
> The system worked for me.  It deliverd exactly what I needed to see.
> But it turned out to be SPAM.  A repeater over 100 miles away that NO
> ONE IN THE AREA could even hope to hit.
>
> Yet the local freqs were NOT being beaconed.  That was my complaint.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>> On 9/22/2012 10:01 AM, Steve Daniels wrote:
>>
>> Had another thought, can the distance be added to the message, you request a repeater from a handheld, it would be useful to see the distance, the repeater is from yourself
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>> Steve Daniels
>>
>> G6UIM
>>
>> Torbay Freecycle Moderator http://http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle
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>> APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
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>> From: aprsisce at yahoogroups.com [mailto:aprsisce at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Daniels
>> Sent: 21 September 2012 23:25
>> To: aprsisce at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [aprsisce] QRU feature request
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>> Just for info as I have already discussed this with KJ4ERJ
>>
>> The ability to request the nearest object only from QRU, that’s to say ability to alter the number of objects that the QRU server responds with, but just downwards.
>>
>> Instead of sending perhaps 5 objects the server would send just 1 on request.
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>> Steve Daniels
>>
>> G6UIM
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>> Torbay Freecycle Moderator http://http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle
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>> APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor http://aprsisce.wikidot.com
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