[ax25-layer2] Re: The BASIS of NSR is questionable

[pete at ae5pl.net]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy J. Salo
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:40 PM
> To: ax25-layer2 at lists.tapr.org
> Subject: RE: [ax25-layer2] Re: The BASIS of NSR is questionable
> 
> Such a blatant, and really unfair, attempt at having the last word...

No, I wanted those on this SIG to understand that much of what had been
espoused was simply incorrect and that the APRS networks are not the
model of network utopia that Bob implied.  It was also important to note
that contrary to Bob's assertions, the n-N paradigm is not in any way
similar to the NSR algorithm, neither in implementation no in effect.

> First, a discussion of you NSR algorithm really needs to 
> include an examination of alternative approaches.  Simply 
> calling any discussion about any alternative to your NSR 
> algorithm "out of scope" really limits the usefulness of this group.

Discussion of using AX.25 as other than a layer 2 protocol is "out of
scope".  The discussion of the n-N routing algorithm was not in the
context of how it might apply to layer 2 operations; it was about the
APRS network which is not a layer 2 network as it exists today.  I
encourage you and the others on the SIG to present ideas to move the
layer 2 work forward.  If that means that the NSR algorithm is thrown
out, so be it.  But you need to show how your implementation provides
the generic layer 2 topology required to implement generic layer 2
networks.

> Second, if you want to be a strong advocate for your NSR 
> algorithm in this group, I suggest that you find someone else 
> to be the moderator.
>  What I have seen in this group appears to me to reinforce 
> the centuries-old notion that the chair of a meeting ought 
> not simultaneously be an active participant in a debate.

So noted.  I am not an "advocate" for the NSR algorithm here.  I am an
advocate for a generic layer 2 network topology so that AX.25 can be
successfully used across many applications.  As such, I will continue to
oversee this group.  I have not resorted to moderating the group and do
not intend to now.  I will, however, ask that APRS be discussed on APRS
SIGs and AX.25 layer 2 discussions be discussed here.

73,

Pete Loveall AE5PL